Also, you are forgetting, that prior to the 2014 coup, Russian speaking Ukrainian residents of the Donbass were free to identify with Russia any way they wanted to. In your article Zelensky is still telling them they are not allowed to be Russians living in Ukraine as Ukrainian citizens. They have to make a choice. Zelensky is anti-diversity. Usually you support people being able to celebrate their culture but suddenly you support the monist view just like the Nazis.
As actually reading what Zelenskyy said shows, your description of it is wrong.
We’ve already gone over that, and if Sakwa is an “expert” who promotes disinformation like that, there’s a word for that.
When you use the term “Russian allies” you are trying to smear the victims. You don’t seem to think they are worthwhile people or even Ukrainians. You just want them associated with Russia so you can make their deaths seem understandable and take the Ukraine Nazi side like tjohn who thought they should settle down and behave and follow their new master’s orders.
Russia did not start this attack on the Ukrainian people of the Donbass. You need to acknowledge that. You need to acknowledge that sending Ukraine troops to fire on Ukrainians and to reject diplomacy was wrong.
You really have a hard time understanding what you read, don't you? "Russian allies" isn't smearing anyone, it's a factual description. A group of armed men in eastern Ukraine seized territory and declared themselves independent from Ukraine. When an armed group announces that they are now separate from their government, they are described as "separatists." Russia supported these men with weapon, money, and even fought alongside them. That makes Russia an ally of the group.
In the fighting between the Ukrainian government and these separatists, many people were killed -- the most reliable estimate is 14,200 - 14,400. The majority of those killed were combatants -- either Ukrainian military personnel, separatists, or Russians fighting alongside the separatists. A much smaller portion of that 14,000 was civilians, killed by both sides. When you and your sources use "14,000" as a figure referring to civilians killed, and then further claim or imply that they were all killed by the Ukrainian government, it's a lie, as you are knowingly making a specific claim you know to be untrue.
Looks like it was a busy weekend. I would ask for the tl;dr version of the weekend's list of reasons why Putin is always right and all Ukrainians are Nazis, but I have a suspicion that it's basically the same as in the other 200+ previous weekends.
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As actually reading what Zelenskyy said shows, your description of it is wrong.
We’ve already gone over that, and if Sakwa is an “expert” who promotes disinformation like that, there’s a word for that.
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You really have a hard time understanding what you read, don't you? "Russian allies" isn't smearing anyone, it's a factual description. A group of armed men in eastern Ukraine seized territory and declared themselves independent from Ukraine. When an armed group announces that they are now separate from their government, they are described as "separatists." Russia supported these men with weapon, money, and even fought alongside them. That makes Russia an ally of the group.
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