Tom Brady - Dirty, rotten scoundrel

shoshannah said:

I am not a football person, so this may be a dumb question. If the game ball is slightly under-inflated or over-inflated, wouldn't BOTH teams be equally advantaged or disadvantaged? They are both using the same ball.

Regardless, his punishment is a future with cognitive impairment.

 My guess is the advantage goes to the QB - the one who handles it the most and needs to apply the most finesse or skill in making it go where he wants it. 

Both teams do not use the same ball... each team brings their own balls and only Brady's balls were underinflated

Personally I like Brady being a former Michigan man but I believe he is getting punished more for his lack of cooperation in the investigation than he is for the incident of that one game.  He also probably would have not received the same punishment if he was not part of a team that has been repeatedly warned and sometimes punished for going past the limits of the rules and sportsmanship.  As far as some of the comparisons that I've read, this is a bit worse than George Bretts PineTar, Not as bad as Barry Bonds and others who use PEDs.  I would say it is about equal to Jerry Rice and the little bit of stickum on the gloves.  We will still all believe that Jerry Rice was a great receiver and we will believe that Brady is one of the Best QBs.  There is now a little tarnish but no one thinks that without the slight edge that they would have been average players.  Barry Bonds however, without the roids he probably doesn't reach 700.

Tom, take your punishment, you were caught.  Enjoy some time with your wife and then come back for another Super Bowl.

terminator3 said:

Both teams do not use the same ball... each team brings their own balls and only Brady's balls were underinflated

 What do you mean? I don't know much about football, but I'm pretty sure there's only one ball in play at a time and both sides use the ball. No?

shoshannah said:

terminator3 said:

Both teams do not use the same ball... each team brings their own balls and only Brady's balls were underinflated

 What do you mean? I don't know much about football, but I'm pretty sure there's only one ball in play at a time and both sides use the ball. No?

 When a team goes on offense, it gets to use its own balls, as the result of a rule change fought for by Brady, probably hoping he would be able to cheat just like he ended up doing.

I read yesterday that the Pats were fined $1 million, but Tom Brady would make about $1.8 million for  those four games, and he was suspended without pay. So the NFL just saved the Pats about $800 grand.

LOL! this will more than cover the bill.

‘Deflategate’: Sales of Tom Brady merchandise double
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102671754

jeffl said:

Cheater, cheater, pumkin eater!  Give back your rings, Tommy.
Your turn, Soul29.

 Tom Brady's 2015 salary is $8,000,000. That's $500,000 per game, right? If the four-game suspension sticks, the Pats save $2,000,000 in salary ... Less the $1,000,000 fine they got hit with and they're still $1,000,000 in the black!

ml1 said:

It's ridiculous that the NFL allows teams to provide their own set of game balls. It's an invitation to these kind of shenanigans. 

Imagine if they gave MLB pitchers balls to prep ... 

Soul_29 said:

jeffl said:

Cheater, cheater, pumkin eater!  Give back your rings, Tommy.
Your turn, Soul29.

 Tom Brady's 2015 salary is $8,000,000. That's $500,000 per game, right? If the four-game suspension sticks, the Pats save $2,000,000 in salary ... Less the $1,000,000 fine they got hit with and they're still $1,000,000 in the black!

 Think of all the military salutes that could buy. ;-)

they do prep the mlb balls...with mud from the Delaware water gap

Train_of_Thought said:

Soul_29 said:

jeffl said:

Cheater, cheater, pumkin eater!  Give back your rings, Tommy.
Your turn, Soul29.

 Tom Brady's 2015 salary is $8,000,000. That's $500,000 per game, right? If the four-game suspension sticks, the Pats save $2,000,000 in salary ... Less the $1,000,000 fine they got hit with and they're still $1,000,000 in the black!

 Think of all the military salutes that could buy. ;-)

 LOL, I am assuming that is in reference to this,

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/11/14-nfl-teams-took-tax-dollars-for-patriotic-pregame-displays/

Borowitz should get a lifetime ban for that uncalled for and totally out of line attack on the Jets. I am pissed.

terminator3 said:

they do prep the mlb balls...with mud from the Delaware water gap

 the umpires prep the baseballs.

I still think it's crazy that the NFL allows each team to bring its own footballs to the game.  If QBs like Brady and Manning were complaining to the league that too many teams were using balls that hadn't been broken in for their home games, why was the automatic solution to allow each QB to get footballs of his own?  Why not have the league break in all the game footballs for the season, and have them brought to the stadium by the officiating crew?

It seems obvious to me that the league really didn't think that a team using a football outside the league specs was that big a deal.  If they did, why isn't there a chain of custody after the officials check the game balls?  Why do they hand them back to some home team clubhouse guy to take down to the field?

it's only a big deal because the NFL botched the punishment for other more serious crimes committed by players.  It was easy for the league to throw the book at Brady and the Pats so they can look tough on offenders.

First, if they miss the playoffs because of those games they will lose many millions.  Second, I would have had his suspension be for the playoffs next year, not the regular season.  Third, its a little harsh, as they are only now changing the way the balls are handled before the games.

"Hey Tom, how many times have you cheated to get to the Super Bowl? Hey Gisele, how many times has he got caught?"

+1.

ml1 said:

it's only a big deal because the NFL botched the punishment for other more serious crimes committed by players.  It was easy for the league to throw the book at Brady and the Pats so they can look tough on offenders.