Russia's Filtration Camps
nan said:
drummerboy said:
nan said:
drummerboy said:
nan said:
Trump said his campaign was being spied on and lots of people, and probably you, said he was crazy. Then we found out about the FISA warrant for Carter Paige. Much later.
you think that's what Trump was talking about?
jesus and OMG, that's just embarrassing. But you gave us a big clue into your thinking.
That was one example. Also, the whole Russiagate thing was created and pushed by the Democrats and helped along by the FBI. Trump did so many negative things to the Russians but Democrats were blind to anything but his being a "Russian agent.
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That was one example? (it of course is not) Is there another example of his campaign being "spied on"?
That was quite big. I think they did some more but I don't remember the details. Anyway, Trump may be crazy, but his saying he was being spied on was not a sign of that.
It was, in fact, pretty freaking trivial. Carter Paige? Quite big? LOL?
Do you think Trump even knew who Paige was?
Such a fantasy world you live in.
drummerboy said:
nan said:
drummerboy said:
nan said:
drummerboy said:
nan said:
Trump said his campaign was being spied on and lots of people, and probably you, said he was crazy. Then we found out about the FISA warrant for Carter Paige. Much later.
you think that's what Trump was talking about?
jesus and OMG, that's just embarrassing. But you gave us a big clue into your thinking.
That was one example. Also, the whole Russiagate thing was created and pushed by the Democrats and helped along by the FBI. Trump did so many negative things to the Russians but Democrats were blind to anything but his being a "Russian agent.
blah
blah
blah
That was one example? (it of course is not) Is there another example of his campaign being "spied on"?
That was quite big. I think they did some more but I don't remember the details. Anyway, Trump may be crazy, but his saying he was being spied on was not a sign of that.
It was, in fact, pretty freaking trivial. Carter Paige? Quite big? LOL?
Do you think Trump even knew who Paige was?
Such a fantasy world you live in.
Why do you punctuate every post with a personal attack? It gives the impression that you don't have a real argument so you try to discredit the person you are arguing with. You know you won't be censored and perhaps applauded by the MOL herd so you feel free to be as horrible as you want. That shows a serious lack of morals.
Just an observation.
Anyway - It was a big deal that the FBI used the fake dossier to get the FISA warrant to surveil him.
A report published by Human Rights Watch (HRW) on Thursday highlighted evidence of the forced relocation and abuse of civilians by Russia in occupied Ukraine.
“The forcible transfer of civilians is prohibited under international humanitarian law, or the laws of war, and can be prosecuted as a war crime and a crime against humanity,” the international rights watchdog said.
Russian officials have systematically prevented Ukrainians fleeing the fighting from traveling to Kyiv-controlled territories, according to over 50 interviews with refugees and volunteers conducted by HRW.
Instead, displaced Ukrainians have been forced to move to Russia or self-proclaimed separatist republics in eastern Ukraine that are dependent on Moscow.
“Of course, we would have used the opportunity to go to Ukraine if we could have,” a woman transferred to Russia from Mariupol told Human Rights Watch.
“But we had no choice, no possibility to go there.”
Only refugees with more financial resources were able to escape to Ukrainian-controlled areas, according to HRW.
Whichever way they were traveling, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been forced to undergo a security screening process — known as “filtration” — that is reportedly administered by local pro-Kremlin officials and the Russian military.
Filtration typically involves the collection of Ukrainians’ biometric data, a search of their belongings, and an interrogation about their political views, according to the HRW report. Many residents of occupied territories were reportedly forced to remain in confinement while waiting to undergo screening.
Ukrainians who failed to pass the checks and obtain “approval receipts” — most often due to their alleged ties to the Ukrainian military — were moved to detention facilities in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, the watchdog said.
Some of these detainees were sent to Olenivka prison where over 50 Ukrainian prisoners of war were killed in an attack in July.
“There are serious grounds for concern that civilians whom Russian and Russian-affiliated armed groups detained as a result of filtration may face torture or other ill-treatment and enforced disappearance in detention,” the report said.
Can you imagine being forced to go live in a place where the people there think you should not even be alive? Can’t speak your own language?
Over one million Ukrainians are now tossed into the farthest area from the Russian border to fend for themselves.
I can’t wait to see Putin on trial for war crimes, I know it’s a stretch, but he’s got to be held accountable for all this.
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That was quite big. I think they did some more but I don't remember the details. Anyway, Trump may be crazy, but his saying he was being spied on was not a sign of that.