STARBUCKS
A responsible adult gathers his facts and makes a decision as to how to proceed. Those little ones we call our children are not yet responsible adults. Teach your children well.
They do offer alternatives:
Sugar-Free Starbucks Coffees
- Bold Pick of the Day
- Clover Brewed Coffee
- Decaf Pike Place Roast
Sugar-Free Starbucks Espresso Drinks
- Caffè Americano
- Espresso Macchiato
- Iced Caffè Americano
Sugar-Free Starbucks Teas
- Tazo Awake Brewed Tea
- Tazo Calm Brewed Tea
- Tazo China Green Tips Brewed Tea
- Tazo Earl Grey Brewed Tea
- Tazo Passion Brewed Tea
- Tazo Refresh Brewed Tea
- Tazo Zen Brewed Tea
- Tazo Full Leaf Chai Tea
Yes they certainly do and I commend them for that. Also I am told that their WiFi is excellent and I like the fact that they have a business model on the European mode where one buys a cup of whatever and stay an unlimited period of time . Only thing missing is a group of old men sitting there playing dominoes. But they would have filterless cigarettes dangling from their mouths. I try to avoid them.
author said:
Only thing missing is a group of old men sitting there playing dominoes. But they would have filterless cigarettes dangling from their mouths. I try to avoid them.
the old men or the cigarettes?
Starsong said:
author said:
Only thing missing is a group of old men sitting there playing dominoes. But they would have filterless cigarettes dangling from their mouths. I try to avoid them.
the old men or the cigarettes?
It's a package deal so both. When they tire of dominoes out come the backgammon boards. Funny true story.........high blood pressure runs in my mom's side of the family and is a problem for me. One entire trip to the Motherland I avoided Greek coffee........drank tea instead. Come to find out there is less caffeine in Greek coffee than the blends we drink here. Another year made friends with the manager of a desert and coffee shop located near where I was staying . She would make a cold cappuccino that was just out of sight.
After working a total of three years in Austria and Germany she now has her own shop in the Piraeus .
Guess where my first stop will be after leaving the airport.
author said:
Starsong said:
author said:
Only thing missing is a group of old men sitting there playing dominoes. But they would have filterless cigarettes dangling from their mouths. I try to avoid them.
the old men or the cigarettes?
It's a package deal so both. When they tire of dominoes out come the backgammon boards. Funny true story.........high blood pressure runs in my mom's side of the family and is a problem for me. One entire trip to the Motherland I avoided Greek coffee........drank tea instead. Come to find out there is less caffeine in Greek coffee than the blends we drink here. Another year made friends with the manager of a desert and coffee shop located near where I was staying . She would make a cold cappuccino that was just out of sight.
After working a total of three years in Austria and Germany she now has her own shop in the Piraeus .
Guess where my first stop will be after leaving the airport.
The bathroom.
In front of the aged Greek Parliament building in Athens there is a wide boulevard whose name I can never remember. Crossing it one finds one self in a pleasant park called Constitution Square . It is a place of fountains and benches and some shade. Good place to rest from the hustle and bustle of downtown Athens.........especially in the heat of the summer. Lining the edge of the square are a few coffee shops selling cold drinks and over priced coffee to the tourists. The good Greek coffee has quite the opposite effect on those tasting it for the first time. The locals refer to the place rather than Constitution Square
they call it constipation square. They adjust
the continued bumping of this thread is great advertising for the new Starbucks
ml1 said:
the continued bumping of this thread is great advertising for the new Starbucks
Well, at least for the dozen or so people with the patience to still be following it. 
even if you're not following the thread and never open it, every time you go to the message board you see: STARBUCKS
Given the fact that they are the largest walk in and have a cup vendor in the country, I don't think they need much advertising. They do a lot of work for sugar producers also. And that does not mention laying the work for future dental work or dealing with diabetes' Drink up
Oh and by the way in researching them I found out that Frapacinos contain no coffee at all. Just milk, sugar food coloring and various additives. I do feel safer at Village Coffee, Palmers oe Abel Baker.
yes, if one wants to avoid being tempted by sugary treats, one should head straight to a bakery.
The fact of the matter is that the amount of sugar in their coffee drinks is measured in tablespoons not teaspoons. There are some that contain the max amount of sugar recommended for a full grown adult each day. Now it is one thing for a discerning adult to make that decision and an entirely different matter for a partially grown middle school child to ask for one. Of course the Barista will deny him the drink.
author said:
The fact of the matter is that the amount of sugar in their coffee drinks is measured in tablespoons not teaspoons. There are some that contain the max amount of sugar recommended for a full grown adult each day. Now it is one thing for a discerning adult to make that decision and an entirely different matter for a partially grown middle school child to ask for one. Of course the Barista will deny him the drink.
what about middle schoolers wandering into Able Baker and Palmer's? Their products are also filled with sugar. and what about Hershey's and Strawberry Fields? How much sugar is in frozen yogurt or ice cream?
your anti-Starbucks jihad is absurd.
Baklava and Katifi are way too sweet for me. Many Greek dishes came our way via the Ottoman Empire, although we seldom give them credit. A Starbucks coffee to complement them could send a small person into a diabetic coma.
In the NY metro area the most frequently ordered beverage at Starbucks is the Pike's Place Grande. Not a gram of sugar in that drink unless the customer adds it.
sarahzm said:
In the NY metro area the most frequently ordered beverage at Starbucks is the Pike's Place Grande. Not a gram of sugar in that drink unless the customer adds it.
As more and more people rejected their Eu de Burnt wood primary offering that became their plan B coffee
If there is no other coffee outlet around that is my go to blend.
ml1 said:
author said:
The fact of the matter is that the amount of sugar in their coffee drinks is measured in tablespoons not teaspoons. There are some that contain the max amount of sugar recommended for a full grown adult each day. Now it is one thing for a discerning adult to make that decision and an entirely different matter for a partially grown middle school child to ask for one. Of course the Barista will deny him the drink.
what about middle schoolers wandering into Able Baker and Palmer's? Their products are also filled with sugar. and what about Hershey's and Strawberry Fields? How much sugar is in frozen yogurt or ice cream?
your anti-Starbucks jihad is absurd.
Not when you consider that they are the largest distributor of coffee by the cup in the entire country. Not when you consider that most of their products contain so very much sugar. Not when you remember that so many Americans have an active sweet tooth. Not when you come to realize that to take in such an excessive amount of sweet on an ongoing period of time is simply not a good idea. I am sure any conscientious nutritionist would think along the same line. Remember, I am talking about an excessive amount of sugar not just a teaspoon. To continue that sugar by the tablespoon benefits only Starbucks.
Beside I heard Jihadist drink only instant coffee......now that is absurd.
It's absurd that you've been on this board for years and never expressed your horror at the caloric excess of ice cream or frozen yogurt for example. Nearly every item at the ice cream shop has a combination of fat and sugar that would be unhealthy if consumed too frequently. What's the amount of fat and sugar in a large hot fudge sundae? At least at Starbucks you can find plenty of tea and coffee options without sugar.
If you're really sincere about the health of the children why aren't you going after ice cream shops or bakeries?
ml1 said:
It's absurd that you've been on this board for years and never expressed your horror at the caloric excess of ice cream or frozen yogurt for example. Nearly every item at the ice cream shop has a combination of fat and sugar that would be unhealthy if consumed too frequently. What's the amount of fat and sugar in a large hot fudge sundae? At least at Starbucks you can find plenty of tea and coffee options without sugar.
If you're really sincere about the health of the children why aren't you going after ice cream shops or bakeries?
Interesting that you should note that such a condition exists in some of the deserts we are taking into our systems. That has never bothered you before you use it as a counter argument to my criticisms of Startrip?
The big difference is that coffee drinking is very much a daily habit...........some people feel they can not function with out it. Now I have no criticism of their prime coffee..........the one with the burn taste.
To drink it or not is a subjective act.....I have not checked but I believe the amount of sugar in it
falls into the range of reasonable. The same can be said of their alternate Pike blend. It is with their desert coffees the ones that contain 3 and 4 and sometimes almost 5 tablespoons of sugar that I make my quarrel.
And when our middle school kids drink that stuff day, after day, after day............what do you think that
is doing to their systems. Stopping at Starship every day after day becomes a routine............and what they
drink there becomes a routine and as such should be much more an area of concern than an occasional
trip to the ice cream or frozen yogurt store. They are a target group every bit as if they had bulls eyes
on their backs.
Actually Author has, after trying to throw everything at the wall to see if anything sticks, finally stumbled onto a valid point. While Starbucks started as a company dedicated to elevating coffee in America (yes really and to a large extent they have done so) most of their profit and growth these days comes from pushing high sugar items and they have become a big part of the problem of the massive over consumption of sugar. Many people are trading in their Cokes for a high sugar drink at Starbucks and are actually increasing their sugar consumption.
ska said:
Actually Author has, after trying to throw everything at the wall to see if anything sticks, finally stumbled onto a valid point. While Starbucks started as a company dedicated to elevating coffee in America (yes really and to a large extent they have done so) most of their profit and growth these days comes from pushing high sugar items and they have become a big part of the problem of the massive over consumption of sugar. Many people are trading in their Cokes for a high sugar drink at Starbucks and are actually increasing their sugar consumption.
The act of "stumbling" is a fine art confined to we zealots who are willing to take a shot at it and take our lumps at the same time. Going against the grain is never easy but sometimes necessary.
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