Is Bill Cosby Not Innocent until proven guilty?

project37

Nov 27, 2014 at 6:18am

I have hours and hours of digitally archived Mr. Rogers episodes (plus it streams on Amazon Prime). Watch it with my kids every so often and almost always get a little choked up at how sincere and beautiful that show (and that man) was. He was the real deal.

I'll leave these here. Enjoy (but have tissues handy).

Reducing an awards show audience to tears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM

Defending PBS (just...wow):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q

And one of his final clips (still gets me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAttFerhtnw

crazy_quilter

Nov 27, 2014 at 7:02am

remember this from CeeLo Green? nday on Twitter.
"If someone is passed out they're not even WITH you consciously! so WITH Implies consent," he tweeted in a post that's since been deleted but was preserved by a Twitter user. "Women who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!"

pauli

Nov 28, 2014 at 9:02am

Thank you to those of you who have responded with support and understanding. It's a very positive change from the last time I posted about my experience and this kind of phenomenon. I appreciate it after risking sticking out my neck again. I do hope the Cosby situation will encourage more women to come forward following who have been sexually abused by public figures, people in positions of authority, date rape, etc.

pippi

Dec 11, 2014 at 12:33pm

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2014/12/bill-cosby-beverly-johnson-story?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=facebook

boomie

Dec 11, 2014 at 12:52pm

wow. This man has to go to jail. Forever.

mountainside1

Dec 11, 2014 at 1:37pm

Beverly Johnson's account really breaks it down it a way that makes it impossible for nay-sayers to hold their ground. This was the 80's. Cosby was the biggest thing in showbiz, especially for African Americans. People took pills that were handed to them without getting too worried about what it was...drugs flowed, "like water," were her words. He carefully groomed his victims in a predatory way that we (in 2014) now recognize. And even though she was handed a laced drink rather than a pill (like Janice Dickinson) her experience with drugs was why she was able to realize what was going. The most hateful tactic, letting his wife answer the phone and said that "they" were in bed. Can people really stick to their guns and say it's all a lie?!?

pippi

Dec 11, 2014 at 2:12pm

What a horrific story. It just gets uglier and uglier. This serial rapist has been getting away with this for 40 years!!!!

boomie

Dec 11, 2014 at 2:13pm

He's really a sick man. He has to be.

njnetsfan

Dec 15, 2014 at 10:00am

He seems to be guilty in the court of public opinion.

ml1

Dec 15, 2014 at 10:45am

he seems to be guilty period

boomie

Dec 15, 2014 at 10:48am

Right. None of this public opinion stuff. That seems to blame us for something.

meandtheboys

Dec 15, 2014 at 10:56am Edited

Statement by the wife.

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/544608377058656256

ml1

Dec 15, 2014 at 11:12am

well ok.

Pay no attention to those twenty-five accusers.

kibbegirl

Jul 6, 2015 at 1:14pm

Apparently, he did admit to giving drugs to women in order to have sex with them.

PHILADELPHIA — Bill Cosby admitted in a 2005 deposition that he obtained Quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with. He admitted giving the sedative to at least one woman.

The Associated Press went to court to compel the release of the documents, and they were made public Monday. Cosby's lawyers had objected on the grounds that it would embarrass their client.
The 77-year-old comedian was testifying under oath in a lawsuit filed by a former Temple University employee. He testified he gave her three half-pills of Benadryl.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bill-cosby-drugs-give-women-sex-article-1.2283239

sac

Jul 7, 2015 at 7:03am

Innocent until proven guilty is a (vital) legal standard in a court of law, but has little or no bearing in the court of public opinion.

mary2430

Jul 7, 2015 at 10:40am Edited

Hope this links work:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2015/07/06/twitter-reacts-bill-cosby-drugs-revelation/29790377/

mary2430

Jul 8, 2015 at 5:58am

sac said:
Innocent until proven guilty is a (vital) legal standard in a court of law, but has little or no bearing in the court of public opinion.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/whoopi-goldberg-and-raven-symone-continue-to-123482044650.html

mlj

Jul 8, 2015 at 6:46am

He admitted it in the 2005 deposition which I saw in the news and as kibbegirl indicates above.

I guess Whoopi is upset about it and clings to denial.

TarheelsInNj

Jul 8, 2015 at 4:18pm

Apparently his lawyer tried to suppress it because he's "not a public figure." Um, OMG. Such delusion! Who could be MORE of a public figure??

Not only is he an actor and author, but he gets paid a lot of money by a lot of people to perform and speak. In public.

kibbegirl

Jul 9, 2015 at 3:07am

And his lawyer also said something crazy about having the docs sealed as not to "embarrass" his family.

Am I the only one who believes that Camille Cosby heard about the details of the 2005 drugging when the public did?

project37

Jul 21, 2015 at 2:40am

Holy ****:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/arts/bill-cosby-deposition-reveals-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-using-fame-drugs-and-deceit.html

What a horrible person.

ml1

Jul 21, 2015 at 4:36am

I think we can answer the original question that started this thread. No, Bill Cosby isn't innocent just because he's not been proven guilty. He's just not in jail because he hasn't been proven guilty.

PeggyC

Jul 21, 2015 at 4:41am

It makes me feel a little ill that the court that saw that deposition allowed Cosby to introduce a clause that would keep all that information secret. They were okay with the knowledge that he would most likely go right back out there and keep doing what he had been doing? They didn't mind women being molested by that power-mad pervert, so his reputation wouldn't be tarnished and his family wouldn't be hurt? What about all the other people being hurt?????

BG9

Jul 21, 2015 at 2:56pm Edited

PeggyC said:
It makes me feel a little ill that the court that saw that deposition allowed Cosby to introduce a clause that would keep all that information secret.

A court is not going to obstruct a civil action clause that not illegal to which both parties agree to as part of the settlement.