WOW! Mitt Stands Alone

Mitt was the GOP Presidential Candidate in 2012. I never understood him, but despite everything it still goes down as a Profile in Courage.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/sen-mitt-romney-will-vote-to-convict-trump-breaking-with-fellow-republicans-110848

Edited to add this:

“It's the hardest thing to do in the world to stand up to your party and to your friends and to your donors and to just decide to do what's right. We all wonder whether we would make the same decision if we were in the same position,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who runs a foreign relations subcommittee with Romney. “There’s still honor left in this place.”

Trump has already tweeted to put his head on a pike, so to speak.

ETA: oops, that may have been Junior who tweeted that.

He runs for reelection four years from now. I think he's not afraid of Trump. 

As I mentioned on the other thread this comes on the heels of Romney's love-tweet praising Rush Limbaugh as a fighter and sending his good wishes and prayers. My enthusiasm for Mr Romney is highly tempered. 

If he'd had the dangly globes to take him on in the primary I might feel differently. 

drummerboy said:

Trump has already tweeted to put his head on a pike, so to speak.

ETA: oops, that may have been Junior who tweeted that.

 It was Trump Jr.

I guess he was … 

Good for you, Mitt. Now, watch your back.

Who's as odious as DJT? Junior.

In fact, the whole clan. Occurs to me - you usually can find someone in the group to pity. Not here.

GL2 said:

In fact, the whole clan. Occurs to me - you usually can find someone in the group to pity. Not here.

 Tiffany seems ok.

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

Admiration that can turn that easily came cheap to begin with.

mtierney said:

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

virtually every Republican senator admitted that Trump actually did what he was accused of in the impeachment -- withhold aid to Ukraine in exchange for a personal benefit.  Romney believed that act was an impeachable offense.  How is that "angry and vengeful"?  At most it's a disagreement with his party on the seriousness of an offense that virtually all of them agreed the president committed.

What I find most ironic is that somehow mtierney is defending Trump as being a victim of hate. Because Romney voted his conscience. 

Trump rose to power by stoking fear and hatred in a bunch of voters. He has said hateful things about various non-white ethnic groups. He's countenanced racism in the wake of the Charlottesville demonstrations. He's a hateful man, and his supporters revel in it because it gives them an excuse to be hateful as well.

What Mitt Romney and the rest of Congress did was not hateful. Trump did what he was accused of. Most Republicans decided his behavior was acceptable in a President, and ceded their oversight position in the name of keeping Trump in power. Without the power of his hateful rhetoric they are doomed, and likewise doomed if he turns it against them. 

To go crying that Trump is now a victim of hatred is hypocrisy or delusional. He personifies hatred.

Klinker said:

GL2 said:

In fact, the whole clan. Occurs to me - you usually can find someone in the group to pity. Not here.

 Tiffany seems ok.

 Aw right, aw right...then there's the kid. OK.

mtierney said:

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

for anyone to have seen Romney's speech, and come away with " Now, he has exposed himself as just angry and vengeful" is bizarre beyond belief.  It indicates a complete failure to recognize what is moral.

Then again, I doubt Fox showed much of his moving speech, so these people are just talking from their usual place of ignorance.

On MOL, we really only have to deal with one person like this, but it's really disheartening to think of the tens of millions of people across the country who think this way. Frightening actually.

Sherrod Brown nails it in nyt today. They'd get the same awful policies under Pence so it must be all about being scared siht of Trump's semi-literate twitter finger and mob.

mtierney said:

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

 Obviously, Romney's decision was not based on hate.

Character assassination, however, always is.

GL2 said:

Sherrod Brown nails it in nyt today. They'd get the same awful policies under Pence so it must be all about being scared siht of Trump's semi-literate twitter finger and mob.

 Yep. I don't understand why they don't see President Pence as better and more stable.

Probably because without Trump's mob he loses to any Democrat in 2020.

GL2 said:

Sherrod Brown nails it in nyt today. They'd get the same awful policies under Pence so it must be all about being scared siht of Trump's semi-literate twitter finger and mob.

 He is the man!

I really wish he would step up and run for President.

STANV said:

 He is the man!

I really wish he would step up and run for President.

 I was shouting his name from the rooftops, and then he did the Dignity of Work tour to assess his desire to run. My feeling was that he may have been waiting for Biden's decision.

I've been a fan and love to watch him on the Senate floor.

@drummerboy had pointed out that his Senate seat might be a serious loss. Probably right.

mtierney said:

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

 I do not often respond to your posts because you are not interested in actual give-and-take discussion.

But that is the stupidest thing you have ever posted! Senator Romney spoke of his faith and almost wept. I heard no anger in his voice, just sadness.

It's painful to hear Trump denigrate Mitt Romney both at the prayer breakfast and at the bizarre WH performance this afternoon.

Romney appeared to have one of those rare moments in the Senate when personal belief outweighed political gain.

Sadly he is being cannibalized by many on the right which always purports to come from a position of faith. Wonder what John McCain would have said about all of this.

Morganna said:

It's painful to hear Trump denigrate Mitt Romney both at the prayer breakfast and at the bizarre WH performance this afternoon.

Romney appeared to have one of those rare moments in the Senate when personal belief outweighed political gain.

Sadly he is being cannibalized by many on the right which always purports to come from a position of faith. Wonder what John McCain would have said about all of this.

 I think he will sail through it all.  Romney's base is pretty different than that of most Republicans.  

Klinker said:

 I think he will sail through it all.  Romney's base is pretty different than that of most Republicans.  

 Exactly.  Trump mocking Romney for saying that his faith guided his decision doesn't seem like it would play well with the Mormon voters in Utah.

Morganna said:

It's painful to hear Trump denigrate Mitt Romney both at the prayer breakfast and at the bizarre WH performance this afternoon.

Who denigrates someone at a prayer breakfast?

A Muslim terrorist, a religious bigot?

mtierney said:

Hate is a powerful motivator for a presidential wantabee. Until yesterday, I had admired his made for public life patina, his life story and family, etc. Now, he has exposed himself  as just angry and vengeful— even though he split his vote in the end, he’s political toast.

I would have voted for him in 2016.

You are a piece of work.

The man was the only one in his party to do the right thing and vote his conscience based upon overwhelming evidence and acknowledgement from his own spineless peers that the conduct was wrong and you vilify him for it?

There was no hatred from Mitt. He is neither angry nor vengeful. Just found some guts, which is quite rare for a politician.

Your blind loyalty against all reason based upon one single issue is detestable.

I just read that Trump finalized a plan today to open drilling in Utah. I know it was being considered but the timing smacks of Trump's spitefulness. 

NowThis Politics

Pres. Trump’s Interior Department finalized a plan this morning to open areas of southern Utah that served as national monuments to drilling and mining operations. The Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante monuments have been dramatically cut in size since Trump took office. This move comes just one day after Utah Sen. Mitt Romney voted to convict Trump of abuse of power.