The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns
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Klinker said:
I would love to know what Donald Trump has on Lindsey Graham.
If you have "Lindsey Graham talks about golden showers during a Senate hearing" on your dystopia bingo card, today is your lucky day! pic.twitter.com/EJmhjzEFR9
ridski said:
Meanwhile, in Be Best Land...
She accomplished what some thought impossible - make Trump look even more ridiculous than he makes himself look.
So ridiculous. Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill! https://t.co/M8ZtS8okzE
Also, this:
mtierney said:
Desperation and a new low.
Tweet response from FLOTUS re a comment by Karlin today at the hearings to the effect that just because Trump named his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron. It doesn’t mean he is a king! Seriously?
“A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.”
Trump essentially said, "You call that a new low? I'll show you a low - -"
So ridiculous. Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill! https://t.co/M8ZtS8okzE
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/world/europe/uk-election-boris-johnson.html
mtierney said:
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
Not sure how he did in Biggly, but he did wrest Workington, Wrexham, Newcastle-under-Lyme, and Clwyd South (note Oxford comma), among others from Labour.
nohero said:
mtierney said:
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
Not sure how he did in Biggly, but he did wrest Workington, Wrexham, Newcastle-under-Lyme, and Clwyd South (note Oxford comma), among others from Labour.
If the Democratic party doesn't focus and unite behind one candidate with none of this silliness of not voting for the Democrat because he's not my perfect candidate or crazy promises, then we'll see the same here.
Obama had it right when he said Americans are comfortable with small incremental changes.
TheConservatives
launched a manifesto that was short on eye-catching policy offers,
beyond a small tax cut to national insurance and a very modest increase
in public spending. The party was keen to avoid the disaster of Theresa
May’s 2017 manifesto when she unveiled an unpopular policy on social
care that was soon dubbed a “death tax” by Labour. This time, the party
steered clear of any controversial pledges.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/five-reasons-the-tories-won-the-election
mtierney said:
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/world/europe/uk-election-boris-johnson.html
Orange man in some parts of Britain means something very different from what it means over here, just saying.
ridski said:
mtierney said:
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/world/europe/uk-election-boris-johnson.html
Orange man in some parts of Britain means something very different from what it means over here, just saying.
Don’t leave us hanging! How so?
mtierney said:
Don’t leave us hanging! How so?
I wasn’t left hanging. I looked it up.
mtierney said:
Don’t leave us hanging! How so?
surprised your Irish relatives never mentioned the Orange.
mtierney said:
Don’t leave us hanging! How so?
ridski said:
mtierney said:
Meanwhile, the Orange man in Britain wins biggly!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/world/europe/uk-election-boris-johnson.html
Orange man in some parts of Britain means something very different from what it means over here, just saying.
See: https://www.irishpost.com/uncategorized/twelve-things-know-marching-season-northern-ireland-94314
Brief excerpt from the above link:
2.The annual 'marching season' parades in Northern Ireland which run over the summer months mainly mark the anniversary of Protestant Dutch King William III's victory over Catholic English King James II at the Battle of the Boyne in July 1690
3. Large parades are held by the Orange Order and Ulster loyalist marching bands across the summer culminating on July 12th, known as 'The Twelfth', when streets are bedecked with British flags and bunting
4. Politically, the Orange Order is a conservative British Unionist organisation with links to Ulster loyalism, a political ideology found primarily among working class people in the North who oppose a united Ireland
5. On the night before The Twelfth—the "Eleventh Night"—huge towering bonfires are lit in many Protestant unionist neighbourhoods in Northern Ireland. In many of these areas the bonfires are family-friendly community celebrations. However, they have been condemned for displays of sectarian and ethnic hatred, anti-social behaviour. The Irish Tricolor, Irish nationalist symbols, Catholic symbols, and effigies, are sometimes burnt on the fires. Not all Protestants attend the bonfires and most Catholics avoid them
PS IMHO, the "in-group" are again being vague and condescending. Rather than address your direct and thoughtful question, the in-group responds with non-answers.
ETA: Ultimately, ridski provide a link but we cross-posted.
RealityForAll said:
PS IMHO, the" in-group" are again being vague and condescending. Rather than address your direct and thoughtful question, the in-group responds with non-answers.
ETA: Ultimately, ridski provide a link but we cross-posted.
while direct, it wasn't a particularly thoughtful question. It's nice that you provided an answer. But it's not a terrible thing that some of us would prefer to teach a person to fish instead of handing her a fish.
ml1 said:
RealityForAll said:
PS IMHO, the" in-group" are again being vague and condescending. Rather than address your direct and thoughtful question, the in-group responds with non-answers.
ETA: Ultimately, ridski provide a link but we cross-posted.
while direct, it wasn't a particularly thoughtful question. It's nice that you provided an answer. But it's not a terrible thing that some of us would prefer to teach a person to fish instead of handing her a fish.
Calling a Catholic a "fish eater" is a very "Orange Order" thing to do.
nohero said:
Calling a Catholic a "fish eater" is a very "Orange Order" thing to do.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
Pescetarianism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to navigationJump to searchPescetarianism or pescatarianism[2] (/ˌpɛskəˈtɛəriənɪzəm/) is the practice of adhering to a diet that incorporates seafood as the only source of meat in an otherwise vegetarian diet.[1] Most pescetarians are ovo-lacto vegetarians who eat seafood along with dairy products and eggs.
Etymology[edit]
Pescetarian is a neologism formed as a portmanteau of the Italian word pesce ("fish") and the English word vegetarian.[1] The English pronunciation of both pescetarian and its variant pescatarian is /ˌpɛskəˈtɛəriən/, with the same /sk/ sequence present in pescato (Italian: [peˈskaːto]),[3] although pesce is originally pronounced [ˈpeʃʃe], with a /ʃ/ sound.
History[edit]
See also: History of VegetarianismVegans, vegetarians and pescetarians were described as people practicing similar dietary principles as those of the Vegetarian Society in 1884.[4] In the 21st century, the Vegetarian Society does not consider pescetarianism to be a vegetarian diet.[5]
Trends[edit]
In 2018, Ipsos MORI reported 73% of people followed a conventional pattern diet where both meat and non-animal products were regularly consumed, with 14% considered as flexitarians, 5% vegetarians, 3% vegans, and 3% pescetarians.[6] A 2018 poll of 2,000 United Kingdom adults found that 12% of adults adhered to a meat free diet, with 2% vegan, 6-7% ovo-lacto-vegetarian, and 4% pescetarian.[7][8]
As a plant-based diet, pescetarianism is similar to many traditional diets emphasizing plant foods as well as seafood.[9][10] Regular fish consumption and decreased red meat consumption are recognized as dietary practices that may promote health.[11][12]
Motivations and rationale[edit]
Sustainability and environmental concerns[edit]
See also: Sustainable dietEcological sustainability and food security are growing concerns. Livestock is the world’s largest user of land, representing some 80% of total agricultural land. Beef consumption is 24% of the world's total intake of meat, but accounts for less than 2% of calories consumed worldwide.[13] The environmental impact and amount of energy needed to feed livestock greatly exceeds its nutritional value.[14][15] People may adopt a pescetarian diet out of desire to lower their dietary carbon footprint.[16][17]
Some pescetarians may regard their diet as a transition to vegetarianism, while others may consider it an ethical compromise,[18] often as a practical necessity to obtain nutrients absent or not easily found in plants.[19] Pescetarianism may be perceived as a more ethical choice because fish and other seafood may not associate pain and fear as more complex animals like mammals do.[20][21]
Health[edit]
A common reason for adoption of pescetarianism is perceived health, such as fish consumption increasing intake of omega-3 fatty acids which are associated with reduced risk of cerebrovascular disease.[22] Fish and plant food consumption are parts of the Mediterranean diet which is associated with lowered risk of cardiovascular diseases.[23] In one review, pescetarians had relatively low all-cause mortality among dietary groups.[24]
Other considerations[edit]
Further information: Mercury in fishConcerns have been raised about consuming some fish varieties containing toxins such as mercury and PCBs,[25] although it is possible to select fish that contain little or no mercury and moderate the consumption of mercury-containing fish.[26]
Abstinence in religion[edit]
Further information: Religion and vegetarianismChristianity[edit]
Marcion of Sinope and his followers ate fish but no fowl or red meat.[27] Fish to the Marcionites was seen as a holier kind of food.[28] They consumed bread, fish, honey, milk and vegetables.[27][29]
The Cathars, a Christian dualist sect, did not eat cheese, eggs, meat or milk because they were the products of coition.[30] The Cathars believed that animals were carriers of reincarnated souls and forbid the killing of all animal life apart from fish.[30][31] The Cathars ate fish which they believed were produced by spontaneous generation.[31]
In both the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox tradition, pescetarianism is referred to as a form of abstinence. During fast periods, Eastern Orthodox and Catholics often abstain from meat, dairy, and fish; on certain days, fish is allowed, while meat and dairy remain forbidden.[32]
The Rule of Saint Benedict insisted upon total abstinence of meat from four-footed animals, except in cases of the sick.[33] Thus, Benedictine monks followed a diet based on vegetables, eggs, milk, butter, cheese and fish where available.[34] Paul the Deacon (Cir. 775 AD) specified that cheese, eggs and fish were part of a monk's ordinary diet.[34] The Carthusians followed a strict diet that consisted of fish, cheese, eggs and vegetables, with only bread and water on Fridays.[33] In the 13th century Cistercian monks consumed fish and eggs.[35] Ponds were created for fish farming.[35] From the early 14th century Benedictine and Cistercian monks no longer abstained from consuming meat of four-footed animals.[35][36] In 1336, Pope Benedict XII permitted monks to eat meat four days a week outside of the fast season if it was not served in the refectory.[36]
Jerome recommended an ascetic diet of fish, legumes and vegetables.[37] Peter the Hermit, a key figure during the First Crusade was described by an eyewitness as having lived on diet of fish and wine.[38]
Judaism[edit]
Pescetarianism (provided the fish is ruled kosher) conforms to Jewish dietary laws, as kosher fish is "pareve"—neither "milk" nor "meat". In essence, aquatic animals such as mammals like dolphins and whales are not kosher, nor are cartilaginous fish such as sharks and rays, since they all have dermal denticles and not bony-fish scales.[citation needed] In 2015, members of the Liberal Judaism synagogue in Manchester founded The Pescetarian Society, citing pescetarianism as originally a Jewish diet, and pescetarianism as a form of vegetarianism.[39]
Hinduism[edit]
By tradition, most Hindu Brahmin communities follow a strict lacto-vegetarian diet. However, there are Brahmin sub-groups allowing the consumption of fish, such as the Goud Saraswat Brahmin community of coastal south-western India.[40] This community regards seafood in general as "vegetables from the sea", and refrains from eating land-based animals. Other Hindu Brahmin communities who consume seafood are the Maithili Brahmin and the Bengali Brahmin.[41] The Bengali Brahmins consume fish and are known to cook it daily.[42]
Islam[edit]
Eating of fish is permitted in Islam without need for the usual slaughter procedure required for meat.[citation needed]
ml1 said:
RealityForAll said:
PS IMHO, the" in-group" are again being vague and condescending. Rather than address your direct and thoughtful question, the in-group responds with non-answers.
ETA: Ultimately, ridski provide a link but we cross-posted.
while direct, it wasn't a particularly thoughtful question. It's nice that you provided an answer. But it's not a terrible thing that some of us would prefer to teach a person to fish instead of handing her a fish.
Prefer to teach?
Really!!!
Is that what you were trying to do with the following quip (ml1 1103AM today): "surprised your Irish relatives never mentioned the Orange." It appears to me that you were attempting to shame mt for her lack of knowledge about Ulster, Orangemen,etc. I doubt very much that you would provide such a response to one of your in-group cadre (just my $0.02).
ml1 said:
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
Pescetarianism
I always get this confused with "Pastafarianism".
DaveSchmidt said:
drummerboy said:
er, what?
ml1 made an“ in-joke.”
You may want to work on your quotes. As there is a grammar-punctation n*zi (AKA hyper authoritarian) who primarily corrects those who are not members of the in-group.
nohero said:
I always get this confused with "Pastafarianism".
Yeah that was my diet all through college.
RealityForAll said:
Prefer to teach?
Really!!!
Is that what you were trying to do with the following quip (ml1 1103AM today): "surprised your Irish relatives never mentioned the Orange." It appears to me that you were attempting to shame mt for her lack of knowledge about Ulster, Orangemen,etc. I doubt very much that you would provide such a response to one of your in-group cadre (just my $0.02).
you seem to have a low threshold for shame.
It's possible that mtierney knows exactly who the Orangemen being referred to are, and just needed the connection to Ireland to be pointed out.
galileo said:
If you are Irish never wear orange on St Patrick’s Day.
and never on any day order a Black & Tan in an Irish pub
galileo said:
If you are Irish never wear orange on St Patrick’s Day.
Rest of the year, perfectly okay.
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