Westminster Hotel in Livingston (Route 10) is managed by Trump Organization

basil

Let's boycott this place. Got to hurt the dude in his pocketbook


maplewood2005

And I think its owned by the Kushner family real estate company.


South

I never heard of this place, so I guess I've been boycotting it without knowing.  "Westminster Hotel on Route 10" sounds like a place for a Trump to rendezvous with a Stormy Daniels.


Tom

Thanks for the heads-up!



Klinker

Called them and it is true.


ml1

very surprising.  No large gilded signage anywhere.


author

I believe it is a former Holiday Inn.  Changed hand a few times


South


South_Mountaineer said:

I never heard of this place, so I guess I've been boycotting it without knowing.  "Westminster Hotel on Route 10" sounds like a place for a Trump to rendezvous with a Stormy Daniels.



author said:

I believe it is a former Holiday Inn.  Changed hand a few times

So I wasn't far off. 


Daniel

If you want to have a real effect on Trump and Kushner’s bottom line. Give the hotel hell on Yelp or Trip Advisor.  People do take those reviews seriously. 


bub

I'm fine with boycott but not with fake bad reviews on Yelp and the like. 


ramsraymond72

So Bigorange wants to write fake reviews and possibly get hard-working people fired for things they didn't do......What a loser....typical


kthnry


ramsraymond72 said:

So Bigorange wants to write fake reviews and possibly get hard-working people fired for things they didn't do......What a loser....typical

Typical of what? 


Klinker

Seems like mentioning the place's connection to ROTUS ought to be enough.  What employee malfeasance could rival that stench?


wendy

About 13 years ago we booked that hotel for our out of town guests when we had our son's bar mitzvah. I doubt it was owned by donnie or company back then but of course then I wouldn't have cared; now I would. We had a delicious out of town dinner there Friday night at the now closed Strip House at the hotel and then after the actual bar mitzvah and afternoon party at the wonderful Woman's Club (now the Woodland in Maplewood) we all gathered there Saturday evening for a fun time of poker, swimming and tons of laughs with all of the adults and kids who came to join the crowd. We served our guests breakfast the next morning. I only write this to reminiscence and to wonder if the Strip House closed rather than be associated with Trump.  cheese 


Danny

Rather than rushing to smear a random hotel maybe take a minute to think about the people who work there and their families.  I bet they're counting on their paychecks.  There are better outlets for your energies.


bigorangesplot

Whoa, who said anything about fake reviews?  Also, if protecting employees is the fundamental issue, should gun control advocates quit condemning the NRA to keep it's employees happy? Should all boycotts be suspended just to keep people employed?  I don't understand that thinking. Can you explain DannyArcher?


Danny

There is little data to support the efficacy of boycotts as a tool for social change over the long term and significant data that would argue otherwise.  See below. 

So yes, I would say that a boycott of this property would do far more damage to the individuals employed there than it ever would to its ownership.  But by all means though, you go do you.

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/do-boycotts-work-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/

https://www.directactioneverywhere.com/theliberationist/2016/1/25/boycotts-almost-surely-will-never-work



annielou

This hotel is small potatoes in Trump world. Better you should have talked people out of voting for Bernie.


nails


gerritn said:

Let's boycott this place. Got to hurt the dude in his pocketbook

Probably a well run business.


drummerboy

Freakonomics huh?

hokay


meanwhile, a different view:

http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/boycotts/successfulboycotts.aspx

DannyArcher said:

There is little data to support the efficacy of boycotts as a tool for social change over the long term and significant data that would argue otherwise.  See below. 


So yes, I would say that a boycott of this property would do far more damage to the individuals employed there than it ever would to its ownership.  But by all means though, you go do you.


http://freakonomics.com/podcast/do-boycotts-work-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/

https://www.directactioneverywhere.com/theliberationist/2016/1/25/boycotts-almost-surely-will-never-work



ml1

I have been refusing to stay in Trump hotels since long before he ran for POTUS.  And it wasn't empty words, because I'd travel for business with people who stayed in the Trump Chicago, but I'd be down the road at another place.  And it wasn't because I thought it would bring down his business or change anything.  It was because it made me feel creepy to be giving my company's money to such an *******.


Starsong

The desire to want people and their families to fail, or an eye for an eye, or the feeling you are left full of wanting revenge, wanting to destroy someone and or a business associated with him/her- please think about that for a moment.  please, before you respond here. take a look inside yourself. you are harboring some things perhaps that are weighing you down. sure, do your political lobbies what have you- but to wish ill will on someone you don't even know, employees, or even someone you do know, just ain't right friends.  sorry if that comes off as condescending- but really, just stop and take a breath, further your causes but release the need to hurt others, perhaps find an equilibrium inside - keep your own curbs clean, hope the others will do so, but don't live on if they do or don't. take care of yourselves, be kind. please. it's not good for you nor for the universe.  You can laugh at this, or remember it next time you wish bad on others. How about instead, wishing good on others. 


Klinker

The hotel was there before Trump took over management and the hotel (and its employees) will be there when Trump is nothing more than a dark chapter in American history.  

I would not give my money to a business that I knew was owned by a rapist.  I would not give my money to a business that I knew was owned by a white supremacist.  I would not give my money to a business that I knew was owned by Donald Trump.

But I repeat myself.....


Morganna

The desire to disassociate from the Trump brand has pushed Hotels, such as the one in Panama and apartment buildings to change their arrangements with Trump by either taking down his name ftom a Manhattan building or ending their contract. I'm not sure what the arrangement is with Trump and Kushner but if it is something that could be changed, it would be worth contacting the partner or manager and explaining that you can not support that business and that you intend to tell others.

This gives a warning and may inspire people to change either the agreement with Trump or Kushner or look for another job.

Personally I believe in boycotts. I proposed to a buddy that a Democratic boycott of products from Kentucky and Wisconsin might pressure McConnell and Ryan to give in on certain issues like gun control. It was interesting that a few weeks later we heard the proposed tariffs on Kentucky Bourbon, one of the products I suggested and Harley Davidson from I believe the E. U. both targeting those 2 states and leaders. Boycotts and strikes always hurt someone.

But it is better than violence and more effective than thoughts and prayers.


mem

Why hasn’t this hotel gone bankrupt like the rest of his businesses?


author


mem said:

Why hasn’t this hotel gone bankrupt like the rest of his businesses?

Busy location........ideally situated between the Oranges and many corporate head quarters in Parsippany

Local management is competent.   It has changed owners several times


cramer

The Kushner organization owns the Westminister hotel and the Trump organization manages it. 

The NYT article cited above by DaveSchmidt  highlights  a boutique hotel that the Kushner organization is building in Long Branch which will be managed by the Trump organization. The Kushner organization purchased Pier Village several years ago for $220 million. The lawyer representing Kushner is a good friend. 

Morganna said:

  I'm not sure what the arrangement is with Trump and Kushner but if it is something that could be changed, it would be worth contacting the partner or manager and explaining that you can not support that business and that you intend to tell others.


spontaneous


DannyArcher said:

Rather than rushing to smear a random hotel maybe take a minute to think about the people who work there and their families.  I bet they're counting on their paychecks.  There are better outlets for your energies.

By this logic I should now go out an spend money at Hobby Lobby since I don't agree with their refusal to cover certain types of affordable and reliable birth control.  In other words, I should now spend money at Hobby Lobby in order to help make sure that the employees earn enough to be able to cover the costs out of their own pocket


spontaneous


Starsong said:

The desire to want people and their families to fail, or an eye for an eye, or the feeling you are left full of wanting revenge, wanting to destroy someone and or a business associated with him/her- please think about that for a moment.  please, before you respond here. take a look inside yourself. you are harboring some things perhaps that are weighing you down. sure, do your political lobbies what have you- but to wish ill will on someone you don't even know, employees, or even someone you do know, just ain't right friends.  sorry if that comes off as condescending- but really, just stop and take a breath, further your causes but release the need to hurt others, perhaps find an equilibrium inside - keep your own curbs clean, hope the others will do so, but don't live on if they do or don't. take care of yourselves, be kind. please. it's not good for you nor for the universe.  You can laugh at this, or remember it next time you wish bad on others. How about instead, wishing good on others. 

How about asking the squatters in the White House to look inside themselves and think about their wishing ill on human beings



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