Other practical concerns - COVID-19

My exercise physiologist is arranging home visits for people with mental health plans and chronic conditions. Also planning for the chronic conditions class to be hooked up for wellness chat/workout via video calls. (Even if we can’t all see each other, if we have a few minutes just catching up & making sure each is ok, answering any questions re well-being or supplies etc then exercising at the regular time, our habits and morale are still good)

Do you have that possibility there?


Plenty of parking on Dunellen today, 12.37 PM:


cody said:

As far as vet visits go, I just got an email from Westfield Emergency Vets saying they are postponing the usual vaccine/checkup visits, but the Union location is still open for emergencies. IIRC, you have to call first, give them info about the animal and payment info over the phone, they come out to the parking lot to get the animal (owners not allowed inside right now except for critical or euthanasia visits). After they have examined the animal, they call you and discuss what is necessary. For pickup, they will bring the animal outside to you, in parking lot. I don't know if this is indicative of all the vet practices nearby, just letting you know what this one practice is doing. 

It is a scary situation - I am wondering about my dentist visit, too. The hygienist is wearing a mask, but still, I don't think they disinfect the chair or door handles between patients.

 Boy on the list of what is spooking me, this might be at the top. I'm going to check policies around. I have a kitten in rescue that needs major surgery at Oradell.  Hope he can still get it.

Some of the trappers I know doing TNR just posted one of the main clinics is canceling appointments. This is the time everyone is taking the ferals to be fixed to halt kitten season. 

Heard Bergen County Shelter is closing. All of the shelters are begging for fosters.

Thanks for the heads up.


spontaneous said:

jamie said:

My dentist- dr Fried - has cancelled all appointments.

 Routine appointments, or ALL appointments?  I'd hate to think of someone with an abscessed tooth being unable to get prompt medical care

I'm guessing - if there's an emergency they'll figure something out.  Mine was routine.

Bass Chiro suspended routine service as well.


jamie said:

spontaneous said:

jamie said:

My dentist- dr Fried - has cancelled all appointments.

 Routine appointments, or ALL appointments?  I'd hate to think of someone with an abscessed tooth being unable to get prompt medical care

I'm guessing - if there's an emergency they'll figure something out.  Mine was routine.

Bass Chiro suspended routine service as well.

 That makes sense.  My worry is about emergency visits.  

My endocrinologist is closing his office until this passes.  Straight up closing it, they told me they won't even be answering the phones.  My appointment was non-urgent, so it doesn't affect me.  But I worry about many diabetics who may need medical care, as being a diabetic is one of the underlying conditions that can make the outcome worse if someone catches coronavirus.  And even without emergency visits, if patients need refills and the office isn't answering the phone, the pharmacy can't refill and patients might end up running out of meds.  I can understand the rational behind not having patients physically in the office, but at least do telemedicine, or have an employee answering the phone.


We’ve gone into medicine rationing because people were unnecessarily stupid: now you can only get 1 month’s supply of anything at a time, and things like children’s paracetamol are behind the counter. Only one ventolin puffer at a time, or one epipen. 
If you’re unable to arrange for grocery shopping etc, you can call 13 HEALTH in my State, and they’ll arrange for someone to help out. (This number is usually a tele-nurse service) 


Is maplewood Starbucks open for pickup? SO Starbucks was closed yesterday.


I'm not endorsing them, though I use many of their doctors, bu you might want to check the Summit Medical Group web site.  They have a huge staff of doctors and will have info about  how to access their medical care these days.  


joanne said:

We’ve gone into medicine rationing because people were unnecessarily stupid: now you can only get 1 month’s supply of anything at a time, and things like children’s paracetamol are behind the counter. Only one ventolin puffer at a time, or one epipen. 
If you’re unable to arrange for grocery shopping etc, you can call 13 HEALTH in my State, and they’ll arrange for someone to help out. (This number is usually a tele-nurse service) 

 I received a letter about this from my health insurance company, in reference to one specific medication. It’s an anti-inflammatory medication, so my assumption was that it was being held back ever so slightly because it was necessary for use in critical care. Interestingly my asthma medicines were not (yet) on that list, and in fact, they lifted restrictions on them. I don’t think that here, people can hoard medicines that require a prescription, because we already have limits on when we can refill them. 


Part of the medications challenge is the production and supply: check with your pharmacies (or maybe bikefixed can advise) which will have ingredients made in countries that are heavily impacted by this pandemic. 
We seem to have stopped the worst of the panic buying of medications here, however supply lines are now impacted because movement between States is limited. That’s not meant to affect goods but the reality is there’s only so much that can be handled each day. 

I can’t get oil of cloves anywhere. Just need it for the pantry/kitchen, but nope it’s nowhere. Stacks of vanilla extract (all grades), and forget about flour or even sugar. 
Meat has tripled in price, people aren’t buying the beautiful fresh veggies that are in the shops but the frozen ones are all gone... it’s all weird. And there’s no traffic noise at all.


This homeschooling thing is a mess.  I received a voicemail from Seth Boyden today about coming in to pick up a device for my son to do school work on.  And it wasn’t a robo call, she addressed me by name.  

My son hasn’t been a student at Seth Boyden since we moved summer of 2018 


drummerboy said:

On the plus side, I went for a deep dive into my closet and came up with 4 N95 masks. Probably got them from Harbor Freight who knows when.

Maybe I should auction them off.

 You should probably donate them to a hospital.


spontaneous said:

This homeschooling thing is a mess.  I received a voicemail from Seth Boyden today about coming in to pick up a device for my son to do school work on.  And it wasn’t a robo call, she addressed me by name.  

My son hasn’t been a student at Seth Boyden since we moved summer of 2018 

The school from home is a joke so far.  Just a bunch of assignments to do at home.  Zero instruction and no word yet from the district on what will or won't change next week.


yahooyahoo said:

spontaneous said:

This homeschooling thing is a mess.  I received a voicemail from Seth Boyden today about coming in to pick up a device for my son to do school work on.  And it wasn’t a robo call, she addressed me by name.  

My son hasn’t been a student at Seth Boyden since we moved summer of 2018 

The school from home is a joke so far.  Just a bunch of assignments to do at home.  Zero instruction and no word yet from the district on what will or won't change next week.

 I wish my school district was that hands off.  I’ve been receiving multiple emails a day, assignments, challenges, etc.  I’m feeling a bit under the weather at the moment so it’s starting to be a little overwhelming.  I actually paid my eldest $10 to help my middle child do some of his online school work so that the school sees that we at least signed in.  

I can not even begin to imagine how families who are stuck working from home are dealing with this.  I feel guilty that my next door neighbors both are attempting to work from home with two grade school kids (K & 2nd) in the house while I’m free all day, but realistically I know I can’t offer to take them in for a few hours because that defeats the whole purpose of social distancing 

We’re really trying to be good about this.  Supermarket, gas station, and work (for my husband) are the only interactions outside our immediate family that we’re having, and for supermarket and such just me or my husband, no kids.  I dropped eggs off at my mom’s again and I put them in her mailbox and then texted her after I left that they were there.  The kids miss their grandparents and cousin, so we’ve been doing some FaceTime, but their other grandma has android so no luck there


I have to push back a little about the school district.  My son has a lot of work to do, but when he needs help it is there.  His drama teacher was checking his work in real time today through the Google.


Neighbor next door is home schooling her kids.  1 got suspended for cutting class, 1 expelled for fighting with other students, 1 suspended for 2 months for skipping school altogether and she was fired for drinking on the job.  

Sorry, saw that on Facebook and thought we could all use a laugh right about now. 


spontaneous said:

 The kids miss their grandparents and cousin, so we’ve been doing some FaceTime, but their other grandma has android so no luck there

 Skype?

Zoom?


mrincredible said:

spontaneous said:

 The kids miss their grandparents and cousin, so we’ve been doing some FaceTime, but their other grandma has android so no luck there

 Skype?

Zoom?

 I’m not a tech person at all, which is why I use apple products.  I know android people make fun of us iphone people, but I turn it on and it works  oh oh Unfortunately neither is my MIL but she went with Android anyway and has trouble with it a lot.  I don’t think either one of use would be able to figure out Skype.  And I thought Zoom was that kids show we watched in the 70’s


spontaneous said:

 I’m not a tech person at all, which is why I use apple products.  I know android people make fun of us iphone people, but I turn it on and it works 
oh oh
Unfortunately neither is my MIL but she went with Android anyway and has trouble with it a lot.  I don’t think either one of use would be able to figure out Skype.  And I thought Zoom was that kids show we watched in the 70’s

 Box 350

Boston Mass


Never apologize for using an iPhone over Android, as the latter are not quality-assured (multiple manufacturers).  And Skype is super easy, as in less than an hour's time to set up accounts and get the hang of it.


mrincredible said:

spontaneous said:

 I’m not a tech person at all, which is why I use apple products.  I know android people make fun of us iphone people, but I turn it on and it works 
oh oh
Unfortunately neither is my MIL but she went with Android anyway and has trouble with it a lot.  I don’t think either one of use would be able to figure out Skype.  And I thought Zoom was that kids show we watched in the 70’s

 Box 350

Boston Mass

 I always wanted to come up with something cool for Zoom Do, but I wasn’t that clever. I remember a kid making raft shoes for walking on the lake. That was cool.


I think my wife and I have to have a serious conversation about where my daughter will go in the unlikely event that both of us need hospital care. It's super unlikely, but we should have a plan.

I hate to think like this. 

My daughter should have a bag with a weeks worth of clothes, and a list of other things she might need. And maybe a prepaid cell phone (she is currently without a phone).

Then we have to talk to friends who might be willing to host our daughter. Considering the fact that in this unlikely scenario both me and my wife have active COVID-19 infections, they would have to be willing to have our child come stay in their home.

Yikes.


mrincredible said:

 Box 350

Boston Mass

 02134 - send it to zoom!


is anyone else finding that when they get the chance to shop, they're buying an awful lot of junky snack food?

I don't even want to say what ended up in my shopping cart today.


Hey, any of you getting fed up with playing teacher all day? I mean, I should get a salary from the District with all that I am doing to keep my kid logging on to Google Classroom all day long. They are NOT teaching. They are posting work that we have to make sure they do. We are teaching and I'm working too. They are earning a salary and not lecturing. It's not their fault. I'm sorry, but this puts huge pressure on all of this. They can use google meet to lecture and they won't. They are posting assignments that we as parents have to be on the hook to get them to complete. 


tuxedo said:

Hey, any of you getting fed up with playing teacher all day? I mean, I should get a salary from the District with all that I am doing to keep my kid logging on to Google Classroom all day long. They are NOT teaching. They are posting work that we have to make sure they do. We are teaching and I'm working too. They are earning a salary and not lecturing. It's not their fault. I'm sorry, but this puts huge pressure on all of this. They can use google meet to lecture and they won't. They are posting assignments that we as parents have to be on the hook to get them to complete. 

 It looks like you're not getting the emails from the district explaining how they're going to pivot to online instruction. Check with yours kid's school.


tuxedo said:

Hey, any of you getting fed up with playing teacher all day? I mean, I should get a salary from the District with all that I am doing to keep my kid logging on to Google Classroom all day long. They are NOT teaching. They are posting work that we have to make sure they do. We are teaching and I'm working too. They are earning a salary and not lecturing. It's not their fault. I'm sorry, but this puts huge pressure on all of this. They can use google meet to lecture and they won't. They are posting assignments that we as parents have to be on the hook to get them to complete. 

Do what you can, skip what you can’t.  Health, mental health, community support and economic survival all matter more. Drop teachers a note If your child can’t manage the work with the level of support you can reasonably provide.  

Pick parts of it to focus on, and ask forgiveness rather than permission.  There will be plenty of remediation in the fall (or whenever).  

We are in a slow hurricane, and unimpaired education is an unreasonable goal, but schools have to keep providing it as best they can.

Personally, I’m concerned about bandwidth If kids need much more video for school.  We have three people WFH at our house, all of whom need bandwidth for mandatory videoconferencing.


susan1014 said:

Personally, I’m concerned about bandwidth If kids need much more video for school.  We have three people WFH at our house, all of whom need bandwidth for mandatory videoconferencing.

 Video instruction is problematic. If there are students in the district without access to high speed internet then you the district can't switch to video instruction. It would not be equitable.

The district distributed over 500 Chromebook units to students this week. But as you suggest bandwidth is key. I know that local service providers are offering free high speed internet but I don't know how long that will take to implement. 


Our school is found some online instruction, but made it clear that attendance at the time of the class wasn’t mandatory, and that parents could access the class at a later time if they needed.  Although this doesn’t help students who don’t have online access, this is helpful for families who are WFH and need the bandwidth for their work and can’t stop everything at 11am for a class

Our school has also said that they’re still working out the kinks in the plan, and that there will be some trial and error 

At least the emails have slowed down.  The first few days the number of emails we were receiving from teachers was just overwhelming.  The PE teacher sending out an email saying to take advantage of commercial breaks to do jumping jacks might have been well intentioned, but was basically just clutter.  Art teacher sending out projects, music teacher, etc.  It’s too much

If this thing is going to last through the end of the school year (very likely) then they need to be realistic and focus on the core subjects and recognize that the daily instruction is not going to be equivalent to what they received at school. I’m not saying art and PE aren’t important, but parents are already overwhelmed, make this doable 


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