NYT trashing Maplewood

kmt

Continuing this one, in the spirit of open discussion:

https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/ny-times-trashing-our-school-district-today

So what?  We all want everyone to do as well as they can regardless of race (I think most of us do anyway).  But that doesn’t mean that we’re obligated to put our kids at a disadvantage because you object to the shape of a probability distribution.


kmt

PS: shutting down a reasonable discussion looks incredibly weak.


sprout

kmt said:

Continuing this one, in the spirit of open discussion:

https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/forums/discussion/ny-times-trashing-our-school-district-today

So what?  We all want everyone to do as well as they can regardless of race (I think most of us do anyway).  But that doesn’t mean that we’re obligated to put our kids at a disadvantage because you object to the shape of a probability distribution.

No. It means we need to change the system to not reward the luck of economic advantage. Our current incentive structure perpetuates concentrating wealth and opportunity hoarding. 

Just watch this realtor.com advertisement (with GreatSchools scores) for an example.

    https://www.ispot.tv/ad/7vGk/realtor-com-better-schools-feat-elizabeth-banks

    Here's the script:

    • “Our school ratings tool lets you search by school boundaries to know exactly where to live to get your kid into the best school.
    • We believe sending your kids to better schools means sending them to better colleges
      • which means they get better jobs
      • which means you can eventually live off of them.”

    Translation: 

    • Ad is geared towards parents who can afford a “best” or "better" rated school areas
    • Live in a “best” school area for your kid to go to “better” colleges 
    • Your kid can attend “better” colleges to get “better” paying jobs. 
    • Then your kid can continue to afford living in “best school” areas!
      • Benefits are retained by the already advantaged 
      • Concentrates wealth → Schools become increasingly segregated

    Do you see how this is an education/real estate opportunity hoarding system? It's a challenge for individuals to make change within it. It's the system that needs to change. One possible way to start change in the system:

    • The "better" colleges could message that they will provide an advantage in admissions to students applying from disadvantaged schools, instead of to students who already seem provided every advantage.

    jamie

    Hey  guys - I must of hit a button by accident - it's open again.  


    sprout

    Thanks @jamie!

    @kmt : Maybe rename this thread something like "Systemic School Segregation", and keep this as a separate tangent from the NYT piece? It's getting pretty far from the focus on the NYT article about SOMSD anyway, as what I'm pointing to is really a statewide/nationwide systemic issue.


    jamie

    I think I'll close this one to avoid confusion - start a new one with the other title if you wish.




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