Need a translation... (@Dave?)
It is Japanese. It says: The drawing of Matsuoka Silver Mountain Hill
ETA: I am told that it is Japanese, but that they are "classic" characters, not the modern ones.
spontaneous said:
It is Japanese. It says: The drawing of Matsuoka Silver Mountain Hill
ETA: I am told that it is Japanese, but that they are "classic" characters, not the modern ones.
Thanks for that. Interesting. The paper is quite old and worm-eaten, so the classic characters makes sense.
I think it says "big retail space in Village Kill existing Retail". Did you get this from the Harvey residence
The first post is the painter's name. The bottom center detail notes "victory gate". North (above) victory gate is "mountain god", which might be a temple. It might be a military map of some kind, but it's not clear.
There are no "classic" and "non-classic" Kanji characters, btw.
dave said:
The first post is the painter's name. The bottom center detail notes "victory gate". North (above) victory gate is "mountain god", which might be a temple. It might be a military map of some kind, but it's not clear.
There are no "classic" and "non-classic" Kanji characters, btw.
My friend is Japanese, other than college he has lived his whole life in Japan. I sent him the pic from the first post in a text and that is what he replied with. His English is pretty good but he has trouble with some words so it might be an language issue, but that is what his reply was
From a reply in FB...
looks like a hand drawn map of a city/place in Japan called - "松岡 銀山"
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ginzan+Matsuoka,+Yuzawa-shi,+Akita-ken+012-0061,+Japan/@39.1594224,140.432386,17.5z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x5f8ee10d003b93ef:0x287d1982b7eebe62
And...
The red house in the middle with the word "山神" might be yama shrine (山神社) from google map above
spontaneous said:
dave said:My friend is Japanese, other than college he has lived his whole life in Japan. I sent him the pic from the first post in a text and that is what he replied with. His English is pretty good but he has trouble with some words so it might be an language issue, but that is what his reply was
The first post is the painter's name. The bottom center detail notes "victory gate". North (above) victory gate is "mountain god", which might be a temple. It might be a military map of some kind, but it's not clear.
There are no "classic" and "non-classic" Kanji characters, btw.
He is probably differentiating Kanji from Hiragana.
Apparently after WWII there was a major reform of the writing system in Japan. Most people born and educated after this point are taught the new system, but can usually read the old one.
Apparently it's called Kanji toyo. I didn't know about that.
spontaneous said:
Apparently after WWII there was a major reform of the writing system in Japan. Most people born and educated after this point are taught the new system, but can usually read the old one.
berkeley said:
Cool--curious about "provenance"
It's impossible to accurately date the paper, but no later than 19th c. Was tucked folded inside an old book. Worms had their way a bit with it. My hope is that by understanding what the characters mean I could somehow figure out where it refers, get a sense of its purpose, and date it. Not an easy one, this, but fun to learn about in any case
I hope you plan to preserve that... maybe even hang it somewhere if it works with the decor. It's pretty darn cool. But I am a history/culture freak.
Just a guess. The shrine is red and some mountains are in red, so maybe there is a relationship in their arrangement.
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No clue what this is. Digging through some piles of papers in the house and found this again. Part of a map of some sort. Recall tossing it about some years ago for help, but can't find the old thread. Anyone have a clue?