How Cold Is It? -------

It's so cold, they can't deliver beer in the mid-west. 

Beer freezes at 32.  Wholesalers tried to deliver but the kegs froze.



That’s crazy.


I don’t remember it ever being cold like this. And I know for sure I can’t take another winter here. It’s painful. 


I believe age might play a difference in how we feel cold. In my youth cold didn't bother me as much. NYE on 42nd st used to be so much fun whereas now not something I would even attempt or consider. It's so cold out now its probably going to keep me in my house tomorrow.


My friend in Summit is stuck in his house. His driveway is on a slope and it is completely frozen.  


Our son lives in St. Paul, Mn. -  25 actual temp., Real Feel -  61. Our grandchildren haven't had school all week, and they're used to it. I don't know what their dog is doing when she has to do her business - probably takes two step out of the house. 


Playing hangman with the spaces in the thread title. 

Is there an F?


Random but related:

So. a little while ago in Maplewood village I saw a guy walking rather briskly to his car wearing a thick winter coat with a fur collar, wool cap and freakin' shorts?! WTF? Is that some sort of fashion statement beyond all measure of vanity (?) because that canNOT be comfortable. It is 10 OMG degrees out!

I once built a horse stall in the snow when it was "only" 22 degrees outside and I wore THREE pairs of long-johns and I was STILL cold if I stopped moving for more that 3 minutes.  The horse appreciated it though, -she told me so (whispered). Half the time I was working she kept putting her head over my shoulder to see what I was doing and check on my progress. 


I just got a job as a letter carrier, been there two months now.  Other than in the rain, yesterday was the first time I wore a jacket while doing a walking route.  Under Armour Base 4.0 tops and bottoms (stole them from my husband), and long pants with a mock turtle neck on top have been keeping me plenty warm.  But for tomorrow I'll wear a coat and probably a hat.  Maybe.  I hate hats.


cramer said:
Our son lives in St. Paul, Mn. -  25 actual temp., Real Feel -  61. Our grandchildren haven't had school all week, and they're used to it. I don't know what their dog is doing when she has to do her business - probably takes two step out of the house. 

 Yikes!! Shoulda stayed in N.J.  


it’s cold as all get-out tonight and early tomorrow but 10-14 day forecast is mostly 40s and low 50s. So there’s that.


Tonight is cold enough to turn the heat up a bit in the house, and open the doors on the bathroom vanities to prevent freezing.


I was in the city tonight and a guy said to me, "cold enough for ya?" 


sprout said:
Tonight is cold enough to turn the heat up a bit in the house, and open the doors on the bathroom vanities to prevent freezing.

 ? I don’t understand this? You mean the sink pipes?


I take care of some feral cats.  One of them will not eat if I don't stay outside with him.  (working on getting them to come in for about 2 years).  Cat A eats fast and will shove Cat B out of the way and take his food.  One day when Cat A wasn't around, I tried staying inside while B ate.  10 minutes later he was sitting by the door and had barely touched the food.  They do have shelter that gets some heat and is protected from precip and wind.  I've tried putting the food by that opening, but the cat still follows me and won't eat without me.  I went and bought extra gear after the cold day a week or so a go.  It gets painful.


Get some wardrobe tips from this strip video by a woman who competes in the Iditarod.


conandrob240 said:


sprout said:
Tonight is cold enough to turn the heat up a bit in the house, and open the doors on the bathroom vanities to prevent freezing.
 ? I don’t understand this? You mean the sink pipes?

 Most (all?) water pipes are running inside the exterior walls.  You risk pipes freezing & bursting when it is this cold outside.  I have raised my night time thermostat setting from 59F to 70F; will return it to regular programming on Saturday morning.  Ditto in a house I am watching for absentee owner.


I miss the days when we called these events cold snaps as opposed to polar vortices that "target" regions as though they are animate objects.


conandrob240 said:


sprout said:
Tonight is cold enough to turn the heat up a bit in the house, and open the doors on the bathroom vanities to prevent freezing.
 ? I don’t understand this? You mean the sink pipes?

Yes. I forgot to say to also open the cabinets under the kitchen sink to let more of the heat go to your pipes in the exterior walls (as @tomcat indicated).


tomcat said:


conandrob240 said:

sprout said:
Tonight is cold enough to turn the heat up a bit in the house, and open the doors on the bathroom vanities to prevent freezing.
 ? I don’t understand this? You mean the sink pipes?
 Most (all?) water pipes are running inside the exterior walls.  You risk pipes freezing & bursting when it is this cold outside.  I have raised my night time thermostat setting from 59F to 70F; will return it to regular programming on Saturday morning.  Ditto in a house I am watching for absentee owner.

 Interesting because none of our pipes under the sinks are on an exterior wall. Kitchen is in the middle of the room, bathroom vanities bump up to interior walls. I guess that’s why I didn’t get this at first.


last night at bedtime it was -5 degrees in West Orange, towards the ridge by golf course. In my 18 years in South Orange and now here, coldest I’ve seen.

This house is almost 100 years old, when previous owners renovated kitchen they put in new insulated stud walls on the exterior walls walls (probably easier construction than dealing with old plaster walls). Supply plumbing for 2 faucets is in the wall... fortunately nothing froze. 


Cold as it is, I will take the coldest day in Jersey over the average hell that they call summer down in Florida.


complete opposite. I’d rather have August heat and humidity any day of the week. Can’t stand the cold. And this, this is just another level!


conandrob240 said:
complete opposite. I’d rather have August heat and humidity any day of the week. Can’t stand the cold. And this, this is just another level!

 To be fair, its not just the weather, its the people, the culture, the topography, the snakes, etc..... but mainly its the weather. I could go on but it will just **** people off.


Klinker said:

 To be fair, its not just the weather, its the people, the culture, the topography, the snakes, etc..... but mainly its the weather. I could go on but it will just **** people off.

 Son’s biggest gripe about living the last two years in the Bay Area: the soul-crushing monotony of the sunny 70-degree clime. A cloud, a cloud, his kingdom for a cloud.


DaveSchmidt said:


Klinker said:

 To be fair, its not just the weather, its the people, the culture, the topography, the snakes, etc..... but mainly its the weather. I could go on but it will just **** people off.
 Son’s biggest gripe about living the last two years in the Bay Area: the soul-crushing monotony of the sunny 70-degree clime. A cloud, a cloud, his kingdom for a cloud.

 No complaints about the people, the culture, the topography, the snakes, etc...


tjohn said:

No complaints about ... the snakes ...

 Depends on how you categorize Stanford.


A million years ago,  when I was a child,  some one told me that a four season environment was much better for the mental health than a one season place in which to live.  At the time I barely knew what mental health was................but I agree

Ok....not at all related and my observation strictly.   What areas brought forth the great strides in human progress.  I think the four season type.   Not meaning to disparage Polynesia type habitats,

but when one's diet easily grows on trees or is provided by Mother Nature........and the weather is certainly user friendly.........where is the incentives to put in years of research on anything or build that miracle device that will greatly improve the human condition?




Well, 200-odd years of European know-how has destroyed indigenous landcare here going back over 60000 years (verified archaeologically), so, no I guess a more temperate or sub-tropical climate couldn't be conducive to terraforming, astronomy, ocean-going in reed/bark outrigger canoes etc let alone seasonal stone and mud fishing villages built around tidal rivers reshaped to trap fish... cheese

(You might need to read up on the horrific recent massive dead fish events as the iconic Murray-Darling Rivers system dries up almost completely here in Australia. This leaves most of the eastern states' agricultural land without water)


DaveSchmidt said:


Klinker said:

 To be fair, its not just the weather, its the people, the culture, the topography, the snakes, etc..... but mainly its the weather. I could go on but it will just **** people off.
 Son’s biggest gripe about living the last two years in the Bay Area: the soul-crushing monotony of the sunny 70-degree clime. A cloud, a cloud, his kingdom for a cloud.

 Which Bay Area?  I grew up in the SF Bay Area and there were months where we didn't see the sun at all.  


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