Handicap Parking

Regulations should be posted on the DMV website.   

Apollo_T said:

Are there any such dispensations in NJ? Any resources?

A search only found details about handicap spaces but NO discussion discussion along these lines.

I see what you mean; I’m not finding information that addresses your question, either. This makes me assume that New Jersey’s plates apply only to the marked blue spaces, that there are no special dispensations for No Parking areas. Which would jibe with this, from NYC:

https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01243

It notes that the access that your friend used is a city-only option, and implies that the New York State tags and placard apply only to marked spaces.

https://www.westfieldnj.gov/DocumentCenter/View/2607/State-of-New-Jersey-Guide-to-Handicapped-Parking

This is a Westfield link, but the brochure is state of NJ.  Info at bottom of 3rd page may be useful.  If i'm reading it right, it looks like...

No parking in "No Parking" places.

Have to put coins in meter, if any.

Permitted to overstay time limits (at least at meters), up to 24 hr.

I know it’ll possibly be out-dated, but if you search JTA’s posts on parking, she might have addressed this. It was a hot topic of hers, since non-permitted drivers often ‘stole’ much-needed accessible bays. 

"No Parking" means NO parking. Parking restrictions in front of a church, hospital, fire hydrant and so forth are established to avoid hazards to the public and are meant to apply to all.   files

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

"No Parking" means NO parking. Parking restrictions in front of a church, hospital, fire hydrant and so forth are established to avoid hazards to the public and are meant to apply to all.   files

As Apollo_T noted, NYC has exceptions. From the link I posted:

The NYC Parking Permit for People with Disabilities (PPPD) is a placard that allows you to park at "No Parking" zones on public streets and at parking meters without depositing money.

DaveSchmidt said:

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

"No Parking" means NO parking. Parking restrictions in front of a church, hospital, fire hydrant and so forth are established to avoid hazards to the public and are meant to apply to all.   files

As Apollo_T noted, NYC has exceptions. From the link I posted:

The NYC Parking Permit for People with Disabilities (PPPD) is a placard that allows you to park at "No Parking" zones on public streets and at parking meters without depositing money.

Does this also apply to vehicles with handicapped plates only or is it necessary to display a handicapped placard in addition to the plates?  Issue being that anyone could be driving a vehicle with handicapped plates while the placard signifies that a passenger or driver in the vehicle is handicapped.

joan_crystal said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

"No Parking" means NO parking. Parking restrictions in front of a church, hospital, fire hydrant and so forth are established to avoid hazards to the public and are meant to apply to all.   files

As Apollo_T noted, NYC has exceptions. From the link I posted:

The NYC Parking Permit for People with Disabilities (PPPD) is a placard that allows you to park at "No Parking" zones on public streets and at parking meters without depositing money.

Does this also apply to vehicles with handicapped plates only or is it necessary to display a handicapped placard in addition to the plates?  Issue being that anyone could be driving a vehicle with handicapped plates while the placard signifies that a passenger or driver in the vehicle is handicapped.

If I understand you correctly, the "handicapped" (now termed accessible) tag or plate is the same. The difference is that a person with a disability ("person first") can transfer a tag to any car they are in. The plates are stationary. There are also two types of tags: permanent and ones that have to be renewed every three years.

in some towns you don't have to pay the meter...but you have to look up each town individually.  and in towns you do have to pay the meter, you can stay over time up to 24 hours as long as you pay the max.  if there were any other authorized for the disabled zones, that would be up to the individual town.

joan_crystal said:

Does this also apply to vehicles with handicapped plates only or is it necessary to display a handicapped placard in addition to the plates?  Issue being that anyone could be driving a vehicle with handicapped plates while the placard signifies that a passenger or driver in the vehicle is handicapped.

it doesn't matter, a person without a disability could be driving the car with the permanent plates...and not have the pwd with them....and illegally park.   or someone can 'borrow' another person's placard.....plates/placards are the same.....PWD should be carrying their ID card should they be questioned..i only saw it happened once...i know a person that works as a waitress, wears spiked heels, is collecting SSDI and a pension for a physical disability...and has a placard issued to her...her doc actually signed off on it......while I walk with a cane or other assistance (unless I am only going a short distance), need the access aisle to pull myself out of the car and steady myself and physically can't do any more than go out for necessities...and have been parked in a regular spot while she is in the accessible spot...that same women would give the placard to her high school athlete daughter headed to the military to use....nothing i can do about it...her doctor signed off and even if the daughter gets caught (they live in an apartment where she uses the accessible parking to void paying $30/month for parking--even though she has plenty of money to go to the salon weekly and buy high end shampoos and lotions)...she just says mom will be using the car next (mom  has her own car).

New Jersey's not like NYC, you can't park just anywhere, even with handicap plates. You still have to follow local signage and time limits unless it's specifically marked for disability access. The state only allows exceptions in designated zones. 

I got clarification through ParkingMD when I did my renewal, their doctors explained the limits and how it varies city by city

An additional problem. The percentage of parking slots for handicapped designation was determined  in the 70's?

At that time, the percentage of elderly was lower in proportion to the general population. In other words, the "boomers" were still booming and not collecting SS, getting knee, hip replacement  or whatever. There are more handicapped peeps now but the percentage of handicapped  parking spaces has not increased.

Then we look at MPL village. For the majority of months of the year, about 20 parking spaces are diverted to outdoor dining.  The number of handicapped spaces remains the same. 

AND THEN --- lets add the meatballs who "park" their car on a lane on Maplewood Avenue, with their hazard lights blinking, while they go into their favorite restaurant to pick up their din-din.

DA FKCU?  

But do not despair. Yesterday, I believe I actually saw a cop addressing a motorist on Maplewood Avenue.  I may be wrong on this because I haven't had my eyeballs checked this year. ;

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

An additional problem. The percentage of parking slots for handicapped designation was determined  in the 70's?

At that time, the percentage of elderly was lower in proportion to the general population. In other words, the "boomers" were still booming and not collecting SS, getting knee, hip replacement  or whatever. There are more handicapped peeps now but the percentage of handicapped  parking spaces has not increased.

Then we look at MPL village. For the majority of months of the year, about 20 parking spaces are diverted to outdoor dining.  The number of handicapped spaces remains the same. 

AND THEN --- lets add the meatballs who "park" their car on a lane on Maplewood Avenue, with their hazard lights blinking, while they go into their favorite restaurant to pick up their din-din.

DA FKCU?  

But do not despair. Yesterday, I believe I actually saw a cop addressing a motorist on Maplewood Avenue.  I may be wrong on this because I haven't had my eyeballs checked this year. ;

During COVID, when the streeteries were introduced, both handicapped parking spaces on Maplewood Avenue below the hill were removed.  One was converted to a 15 minute pick-up spot and the other was occupied by one of the streeteries!  Eventually, they were returned to their original use.  Maplewood Village is a difficult location in which to increase handicapped parking because so few locations meet the physical requirements. A more current accessibility issue is that the town-supplied streeties themselves are not ADA compliant.  

Back again to enforcement (lack of) on traffic problems on Maplewood Ave.  

I drive through the village, at least twice a day. I use a short-cut (For $10.00, and a signed non-disclosure, I will explain the short-cut and what it avoids) that has me driving on Maplewood Avenue.

At least once a week, there will be an entitled person "u"ing to make it into the parking space on the opposite side of the road. This is more common by the post office.

And again, there are the people who stop their cars and block a lane so's they don't have to walk 200 ft. While doing this, they force people behind them to wait for them or try to drive around them. SAFETY PROBLEM. Most times, this violation is between 6 and 7:00 p.m.

Don't misunderstand me. I have sympathy for these people. They paid a load of money for registration and licenses.

In certain cases the people who stop their cars in the middle of Maplewood Avenue are dropping off older and less abled people outside restaurants because there aren't any spots to park near them so they can walk in and the drivers can go find a parking spot elsewhere.

If I’m in a rush to get anywhere other than a hospital, I’ve miscalculated.

ridski said:

In certain cases the people who stop their cars in the middle of Maplewood Avenue are dropping off older and less abled people outside restaurants because there aren't any spots to park near them so they can walk in and the drivers can go find a parking spot elsewhere.

--- and the driver is out of the car and not to be seen?

I promise you. In ALL of the instances of this behavior that I have witnessed, I have NEVER seen a person being discharged from a car. NEVER seen someone opening a car door for a disabled person. Never seen anyone getting into a wheel chair, using a walker, knee thingy or even a cane.

Yeah, I know, some handicapped are not observable. I have a placard for the arthritis in my foot. I got X-rays to prove it. While I can walk almost as fast as other, from time to time, it hurts to walk and that is when I take advantage of the placard.

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

--- and the driver is out of the car and not to be seen?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I promise you. In ALL of the instances of this behavior that I have witnessed, I have NEVER seen a person being discharged from a car.

I couldn't care less.

I’d like to remind everyone with an invisible disability and a parking placard to please wear a Sunflower badge or lanyard.  Sunflower markers are universally recognised as symbols of invisible disability, from cardiac condition, vision impairment, hearing impairment to brain injuries, chronic pain, Crohn’s Disease (needing a restroom v quickly), low blood pressure (balance issues, with sudden falls as you stand or turn or even just lift an arm) etc. 
I don’t have a placard (yet) but I still wear my Sunflowers proudly for my brain injuries, and prior Crohn and cancer diagnoses.   I’ve just been told (and shown) that my blood pressure falls dramatically as I move, leading to disastrous falls.  I don’t look disabled but I can’t safely walk far or fast. 
https://hdsunflower.com/us/  

joanne said:

I’d like to remind everyone with an invisible disability and a parking placard to please wear a Sunflower badge or lanyard.  Sunflower markers are universally recognised as symbols of invisible disability, from cardiac condition, vision impairment, hearing impairment to brain injuries, chronic pain, Crohn’s Disease (needing a restroom v quickly), low blood pressure (balance issues, with sudden falls as you stand or turn or even just lift an arm) etc. 
I don’t have a placard (yet) but I still wear my Sunflowers proudly for my brain injuries, and prior Crohn and cancer diagnoses.   I’ve just been told (and shown) that my blood pressure falls dramatically as I move, leading to disastrous falls.  I don’t look disabled but I can’t safely walk far or fast. 
https://hdsunflower.com/au/

I've never heard of or observed this (although it sounds like a good idea.) Maybe an Aussie thing?

It’s worldwide!   I’ve just corrected the link to USA.  Kansas just had Hidden Disabilities Week!

sac said:

I've never heard of or observed this (although it sounds like a good idea.) Maybe an Aussie thing?

joanne said:

https://hdsunflower.com/us/   

ridski said:

I couldn't care less.

I'll give t another shot.  You suggest that some of the cars parked in a lane with hazard lights on, might be dropping off a handicapped person. 

My point - if that were so, we would see someone getting out of the car and the car taking off after the person was discharged. ANd, maybe also, a driver getting out of the car to assist someone out of a passenger seat. 

Instead - we get the car stopped, blocking a lane, hazard lights flashing and no driver or passenger in sight. Sometimes, we see an individual, returning to the car with a bag in hand.