GOP2020: What Becomes Of The Collaborators Post-Trump?

nohero said:


GL2 said:
Just spent my thrice weekly 1/2 hour with Rush and he's already able to explain the bomber hoax:
The guy's Trump stickers are not faded, even in the hot Florida sun.
If this guy was driving this van around in liberal South Florida, it would've been vandalized.
Thus, this must be a lefty setup.
You're welcome.
 This has "Deep State plot" written all over it. Years of planning went into this charade meant to invent this "MAGAbomber".

The wingers are saying this guy is making it look TOO Republican for him to actually be a Republican.


GL2 said:
Just spent my thrice weekly 1/2 hour with Rush and he's already able to explain the bomber hoax:
The guy's Trump stickers are not faded, even in the hot Florida sun.
If this guy was driving this van around in liberal South Florida, it would've been vandalized.
Thus, this must be a lefty setup.
You're welcome.

 The van with the stickers was photographed over a year ago near a shopping mall.


Apparently the bomber was living in a van down by the river.


BG9 said:


GL2 said:
Just spent my thrice weekly 1/2 hour with Rush and he's already able to explain the bomber hoax:
The guy's Trump stickers are not faded, even in the hot Florida sun.
If this guy was driving this van around in liberal South Florida, it would've been vandalized.
Thus, this must be a lefty setup.
You're welcome.
 The van with the stickers was photographed over a year ago near a shopping mall.

how do you know the photo wasn't really taken today?


He is in his fifties. His mother kicked him out. He lived In his van. They were real bombs. Its not that funny.


peaceinourtime said:
He is in his fifties. His mother kicked him out. He lived In his van. They were real bombs. Its not that funny.

I was evacuated from my office on Wednesday because a bomb was delivered to my building.  So I think I'm allowed to joke about it.  The alternative is to let the bomber scare us.

This is now the second terrorist attack on a place where I work.  And there was a third terrorist attack on one of the companies after I no longer worked there.  And all of them were domestic terrorists.  Not a one was "Islamic" or MS-13 or any of the other bogey men that Americans are pissing themselves over.  If you work in media in this country, you have to come to terms with the fact that your workplace is a credible target for (mostly right-wing) domestic terrorists.

Our building gets credible threats all the time. We can tell when we see a lot of extra guys in suits patrolling the lobby.  My colleagues and I aren't afraid, and we've been able to joke about it.  But with Trump unapologetic about his role in this attack, and not taking back his nonsense about the media being the "enemy of the people", we probably haven't seen the last of this sort of terrorism.  

Fortunately this time, no one was ever in danger thanks to the good work of our building security and the NYPD. But who knows what happens if there's a next time?  Is it a guy with a gun outside the building?

I'll just say one thing -- if I have to read one more post on Facebook or MOL with people going on about dangerous "illegal aliens", I'm going to lose my ****.  Because after this week's experience with another home-grown American terrorist, I don't want to hear about "aliens."


ml1 said:


BG9 said:

GL2 said:
Just spent my thrice weekly 1/2 hour with Rush and he's already able to explain the bomber hoax:
The guy's Trump stickers are not faded, even in the hot Florida sun.
If this guy was driving this van around in liberal South Florida, it would've been vandalized.
Thus, this must be a lefty setup.
You're welcome.
 The van with the stickers was photographed over a year ago near a shopping mall.
how do you know the photo wasn't really taken today?

I'm surprised we haven't as yet gotten the Deep State explanation:

Three letter agencies, FBI, ATF, etc., are instrumentalities of the Deep State. Except ICE, of course. To embarrass our dedicated patriotic leader they set this poor innocent guy up with phony manufactured DNA and fingerprints..

We need ICE to run this whole investigation.


ml1 said:


nohero said:

GL2 said:
Just spent my thrice weekly 1/2 hour with Rush and he's already able to explain the bomber hoax:
The guy's Trump stickers are not faded, even in the hot Florida sun.
If this guy was driving this van around in liberal South Florida, it would've been vandalized.
Thus, this must be a lefty setup.
You're welcome.
 This has "Deep State plot" written all over it. Years of planning went into this charade meant to invent this "MAGAbomber".
The wingers are saying this guy is making it look TOO Republican for him to actually be a Republican.

All this stuff from the wingers about how this is a false flag tells me one thing: they know this is not a good thing for republicans in the mid terms, and by definition that makes this a good thing.


peaceinourtime said:
He is in his fifties. His mother kicked him out. He lived In his van. They were real bombs. Its not that funny.

 Gallows humor is a way to process such stuff.


Even in the face of tragic synagogue deaths, the Idiot in Chief suggests armed congregants might've prevented the shooting. 


And shouldn't he be saying synagogue and not temple? Serious question.


What a sad sad day. Sheesh. WTF is wrong with us?


GL2 said:
And shouldn't he be saying synagogue and not temple? Serious question.

Yes. Orthodox and Conservative synagogues, Reform temples.  Tree of Life is a Conservative synagogue. 


cramer said:


GL2 said:
And shouldn't he be saying synagogue and not temple? Serious question.
Yes. Orthodox and Conservative synagogues, Reform temples.  Tree of Life is a Conservative synagogue. 

 I learned something.  Thanks!!!


Many years ago a friend of mine said he had a problem on the high holidays:

"My son wants to go to Temple, my wife wants to go to Synagogue and I want to go to Shul". 


Shulamit Widawsky, BA Psychology & Judaism, American Jewish University


The term "Temple" is considered by most sects of Judaism to refer only to the ancient Temple in Jerusalem.  Traditionally, until about two hundred years ago, the Jewish house of worship was never called a temple.   Synagogue is from the Greek term meaning "house of assembly."  In Hebrew, the term used is "beit k'nesset" which literally means house of assembly.  For some reason, in English speaking countries, we neither translate it, nor use the Hebrew, but rather use an anglicized Greek term synagogue.  Go figure. The Reform movement, which started around the turn of the century from the 1700's to the 1800's claimed that since we were never going back to the original concept of the Temple in Jerusalem, that the modern term for a Jewish house of worship should be called a "temple." The cultural, (if not ideological) concept stuck, and today, if a Jewish congregation calls their house of worship a "temple" they are nearly always a Reform Jewish organization.  "Synagogue" cuts across all Jewish sects in English, but is less often part of the name of the place.  "Shul" or "Schul" (pronounced "shool") is a Yiddish term, and tends to be used more amongst Orthodox sects to refer to their house of worship.   You probably will not go wrong referring to a Jewish house of worship as a synagogue.  The term is general enough that it doesn't offend anyone, even if they would use a different term.  But calling a non-Reform house of worship a "temple" might irk some people, if their congregation is more traditional.



Reconstructionist Jews also have synagogues.


GOP's Latest Dirty Trick - Atwater Would Be Proud


Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team have asked the FBI to investigate a scheme that was offering payouts to women who agreed to accuse Mueller of sexual misconduct and workplace harassment, The Atlantic reports.

Context: Journalists alerted the office of the Special Counsel of the scheme when a woman told them a GOP lobbyist named Jack Burkman had offered her about $20,000 and enough to payoff her credit card debt if she accused Mueller. Some of the woman's story has gone uncorroborated, per The Atlantic. Burkman has gotten involved in conspiracy theories before — he previously began his own private investigation into the murder of the Democratic National Committee staffer, Seth Rich.

axios


https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/a-conspiracy-so-vastly-inept

Well if the weekly standard calls it a vastly inept conspiracy, I guess it did not go very well.


This has become one of the most hilarious examples of nincompoopery (new word I made up but you can use it) in the current political season.


Burkman: At Thursday's press conference. "Jacob is a child prodigy who has eclipsed Mozart."


Wohl, age 20, has already earned himself a lifetime, S.E.C. ban from trading futures.


Comey pretty much nails it. The nation will recover from this dark Trump period:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/opinion/james-comey-election-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=5&pgtype=sectionfront

 

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…In his new book, “The Soul of America,” the historian Jon Meacham reminds us that the years after the end of World War I were a period of stunning progress for our country. Women got the right to vote. Blacks moved into the growing industrial economy. Catholics and Jews flooded in as immigrants. But that change brought reaction. In the 1920s, the Klan was reborn. Millions of Americans joined the K.K.K., including 16 United States senators, 11 governors and dozens of members of the House of Representatives. Tens of thousands of Klansmen in white robes marched on the National Mall in Washington. Immigration was severely restricted. Then the Klan fever broke in the late 1920s and we resumed our upward progress. That’s the story of America…

 

Our country has changed dramatically in recent years. We elected a black man president for two terms and a woman won the popular vote in the 2016 presidential election. We legalized gay marriage, have an entirely new approach to work and technology and families, and we are on a path to the white majority becoming a minority. History shows us that with so much progress and change, a spasm of negativity and backlash was inevitable…

 

We can’t fully control the natural rhythms of human history. But what we can control is how long this period lasts before the line turns up again. The K.K.K. fever was broken in part because courageous leaders stood up to the Klan and brought millions of good people with them. And that pattern is also repeating itself…

 

The awakening is slow, but it is underway. Torches and death in Charlottesville. Children in cages at the border. The lying, misogyny, racism and attacks on the rule of law from our president. These things poke the giant. It takes time, but the American people are stirring. They always do. And when they awaken, these fevers break very quickly. Mr. Meacham reminds us that Joe McCarthy disappeared almost overnight, after dominating the country and cowing other leaders for four years.

 

 


Most memorable line of the election season belongs to Gillum, as said to DeSantis: "I'm not saying you're a racist. The racists think you're a racist."

Generalize that line to Trump and his fervent followers.


GL2 said:

Comey pretty much nails it. The nation will recover from this dark Trump period:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/opinion/james-comey-election-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=5&pgtype=sectionfront
 
_______________________
 
…In his new book, “The Soul of America,” the historian Jon Meacham reminds us that the years after the end of World War I were a period of stunning progress for our country. Women got the right to vote. Blacks moved into the growing industrial economy. Catholics and Jews flooded in as immigrants. But that change brought reaction. In the 1920s, the Klan was reborn. Millions of Americans joined the K.K.K., including 16 United States senators, 11 governors and dozens of members of the House of Representatives. Tens of thousands of Klansmen in white robes marched on the National Mall in Washington. Immigration was severely restricted. Then the Klan fever broke in the late 1920s and we resumed our upward progress. That’s the story of America…
 
Our country has changed dramatically in recent years. We elected a black man president for two terms and a woman won the popular vote in the 2016 presidential election. We legalized gay marriage, have an entirely new approach to work and technology and families, and we are on a path to the white majority becoming a minority. History shows us that with so much progress and change, a spasm of negativity and backlash was inevitable…
 
We can’t fully control the natural rhythms of human history. But what we can control is how long this period lasts before the line turns up again. The K.K.K. fever was broken in part because courageous leaders stood up to the Klan and brought millions of good people with them. And that pattern is also repeating itself…
 
The awakening is slow, but it is underway. Torches and death in Charlottesville. Children in cages at the border. The lying, misogyny, racism and attacks on the rule of law from our president. These things poke the giant. It takes time, but the American people are stirring. They always do. And when they awaken, these fevers break very quickly. Mr. Meacham reminds us that Joe McCarthy disappeared almost overnight, after dominating the country and cowing other leaders for four years.
 
 

 we're waiting for a generation of angry white men to die.


Trump baselessly claims Democratic voters change clothes after voting “and vote again”

“Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again”


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MATTHEW ROZSA
NOVEMBER 14, 2018 10:52PM (UTC)

President Donald Trump called for the termination of Broward County Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes during an interview with the conservative publication The Daily Caller that was published on Wednesday.

After referring to Snipes as a "disaster," Trump referred to accusations that Snipes had been involved in illegally opening ballots and destroying ballots in the past.

"You look at her past, she’s a disaster. Even with me. I won Florida and, you remember? That area, Broward, didn’t come in. You can only put in so many votes, although she may change that system," Trump told The Daily Caller. He added, "When they call this woman incompetent, they’re wrong. She’s very competent but in a bad way."

The president then argued that Snipes needed to have been removed from her office a while ago.

"Oh, she should have been removed — I think she should have been removed in the middle of this mix up," Trump declared. He also claimed that the election should have been called for the Republican candidates he believed had won on Election Night.

"Well, many votes were added to that, and, you know what’s going on. And now they have mixed them up. They mixed the votes up and now you can’t find the ones that were put in, they just put ’em in to a batch," Trump told The Daily Caller....

..."The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes. When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on," Trump told The Daily Caller.


salon.com


You missed the part where he said you needed an ID card to buy a box of cereal.

Bet he hasn't even seen the inside of a super market in 50 years.


Trump is the "drunk uncle who listens to right wing radio" for our national Thanksgiving. 


ml1 said:





 
 
 we're waiting for a generation of angry white men to die.

 It won't matter. The racist rioters in Charlottsville, The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and on and on are all in their 20's - 50's.


Some things never change. Here’s Trump in 1999:


“With his chairman in place, Ventura moved to find a presidential candidate. He wanted Lowell Weicker, who’d been a liberal Republican senator before winning election as Connecticut’s governor as an independent in 1990. Weicker, now sixty-eight, had left office after a single term but remained a vocal participant in national politics. He began exploring a campaign.


That possibility seemed to provoke an old Weicker nemesis. Six years earlier, Donald J. Trump had sought to expand his casino empire from Atlantic City into Connecticut, where the Mashantucket Pequot Indian tribe had capitalized on a Supreme Court ruling to build a gaming resort on its reservation land. The Foxwoods casino was an instant hit and Trump wanted in on the action, appealing to Connecticut lawmakers to authorize casinos on nonreservation land. Governor Weicker opposed him and it got personal. When Trump claimed the leaders of the Pequots “don’t look like Indians to me,” Weicker called him a bigot and a “dirtbag.”


“My opposition to casinos isn’t just casinos,” he explained. “It’s opposition to Donald Trump.” Trump replied that Weicker was “a fat slob” who should “concentrate on losing 125 pounds.” Weicker ended up getting his way, but now, as he[…]”

Excerpt From
The Red and the Blue
Steve Kornacki


So maybe he was trying out his Eliz Warren routine many years ago - “they don’t look like Indians to me.”


“He issued a statement: ‘If the Reform Party nominated me, I would probably run and probably win.’ “

Excerpt From
The Red and the Blue
Steve Kornacki


“Fleetingly, Trump had flirted with a presidential campaign once before, delivering a high-profile speech in New Hampshire in the run-up to the 1988 campaign. His remarks played on the theme of America being kicked around and “ripped off” by foreign governments. He proposed attacking Iran, a menace to Washington since the Islamic Revolution of 1979, and seizing its oil fields.”

Excerpt From
The Red and the Blue
Steve Kornacki


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