GOP2019: The Devil Made Them Do It

GL2
Mainstream Republicans Must Be Able to Debate These Issues, As Articulated by Palin Supporters


GL2
God Uses Palin to Wake America Up

Palin Eats with Billy Graham
Guess who's coming to dinner: Sarah Palin! Evangelist Billy Graham entertained the former governor of Alaska on Sunday night, when the two talked and ate a meal of chicken, roast beef, and green beans. According to Graham's son Franklin, Palin asked the religious leader about the presidents he had known, and picked his brain about foreign policy, soliciting his reading of the Bible as it pertains to Israel, Iran, and Iraq. Franklin told reporters that his father was a fan of Palin's "strong stand on faith," saying, "Daddy feels God was using her to wake America up." Though Graham's age restricts his ability to visit with politicians as he used to, a private visit with the man is still seen as an important gesture—President Obama called Graham from Air Force One on November 12, and wished him a happy belated birthday.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/palin-eats-with-billy-graham/sunday-dinner/?cid=hp:mainpromo1

drummerboy
Has the Catholic Church ever prevented a pro-choice Republican politican from receiving communion?

GL2
Posted By: drummerboyHas the Cathloic Church ever prevented a pro-choice Republican politican from receiving communion?


Never heard of one if they did.

The Vatican has no problem with American Catholics. It's the locals who think they can bully public Catholics. They tried it with Kerry too. Now this Tobin guy is backtracking, saying he didn't bully Patrick Kennedy. I think he likes what the snake-handlers in the extreme right wing of the Republican Party have done with their constituents and officeholders.

GL2
What the Party Needs Is a Purity Test

The battle among Republicans over what the party should stand for — and how much it should accommodate dissenting views on important issues — is probably going to move from the states to the Republican National Committee when it holds its winter meeting this January in Honolulu.
Republican leaders are circulating a resolution listing 10 positions Republican candidates should support to demonstrate that they “espouse conservative principles and public policies” that are in opposition to “Obama’s socialist agenda.” According to the resolution, any Republican candidate who broke with the party on three or more of these issues– in votes cast, public statements made or answering a questionnaire – would be penalized by being denied party funds or the party endorsement.
The proposed resolution was signed by 10 Republican national committee members and was distributed on Monday morning. They are asking for the resolution to be debated when Republicans gather for their winter meeting.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/23/gop-considers-purity-resolution-for-candidates/?src=twt&twt=nytimes

rastro
Posted By: ridski
Posted By: SMCIt's an insignificant thread, posted on an insignificant message board, started by an insignificant board member who has nothing better to do with his "life". Just ignore it.


And this is but a reply to an insignificant post on an insignificant thread posted on an insignificant message board.
let's not forget... in an insignificant town, in an insignificant state, on an insignificant continent on an insignificant planet in an insignificant solar system in the corner or an insignificant galaxy about to collide and merge with another insignificant galaxy in an insignificant part of the universe.

GL2
Please stop...I'm feeling like "The Incredible Shrinking Man" :wink:

Woot
drummerboy,

The Catholic Church has been pretty outspoken against Giuliani's pro choice stance as mayor. I think they denied him from accepting communion, though I am unsure if it was for his position on abortion or his divorce/infidelity.

Is everything a political conspiracy?

GL2
I sure as heck stand reminded: Campaign '08:

Rudy Giuliani has a Catholic problem and it's not, strangely enough, that he was raised as a Roman Catholic, considered becoming a priest, then dumped his second of three wives on television and has been photographed in a dress. Rudy's Catholic problem is this: he is pro-choice, and 63 percent of white Catholics who go to mass weekly are not. This is a small activist group, yet they are determined, it seems, to see the former mayor fail. Before the Iowa straw poll in August, Fidelis—a Chicago-based conservative Catholic group—ran anti-Giuliani ads in Iowa pointing to the candidate's longstanding pro-choice record. A month earlier, the group's president, Joe Cella, stepped down to go work for Giuliani opponent Fred Thompson. Thomas Melady, former ambassador to the Vatican, recently announced that he'll support Mitt Romney. The bottom line: "In the primary election, Catholics cannot vote for Giuliani," says Fidelis treasurer Brian Burch.

GL2
Soldiers have developed a purity test which should further clarify to GOP fence-sitters just where the Party intends to go in 2010. The Ayatollahs have mullahed it over and decided that whoever defies the Prophet Reagan will be purged. Jihadists have commissioned ETS to develop a standardized test. OK, Michael Steele; think you had problems before? We're just getting started.

Sharpen Your Pencils: You Need 70% to Pass the 2010 Purity Test. Begin...

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Republican National Committee identifies ten (10) key public policy positions for the 2010 election cycle, which the Republican National Committee expects its public officials and candidates to support:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership; and be further

RESOLVED, that a candidate who disagrees with three or more of the above stated public policy positions of the Republican National Committee, as identified by the voting record, public statements and/or signed questionnaire of the candidate, shall not be eligible for financial support and endorsement by the Republican National Committee; and be further

RESOLVED, that upon the approval of this resolution the Republican National Committee shall deliver a copy of this resolution to each of Republican members of Congress, all Republican candidates for Congress, as they become known, and to each Republican state and territorial party office.

ktc
It's a good thing for the Democrats that Republicans don't believe in evolution. Because then the GOP might rethink their strategy of shrinking their gene pool.

These do-dos are headed in the same direction.

Further proof that Darwin, 150 years later, remains correct. Stupid political parties don't survive very long without adaptation.

ffof
the fact that they use the word "purity" should give anyone the jitters.

kathy
Keith Olbermann scored this last night on Reagan's behalf and found that Reagan did not pass.

ktc
Posted By: kathyKeith Olbermann scored this last night on Reagan's behalf and found that Reagan did not pass.


Of course not. The actual Reagan is nothing like the fictional, deified Reagan the GOP worships now.

bobk
The Dems are heading in the same direction. I caught part of Ed Schultz;s show on MSNBC and Ed and a couple of liberal guests were debating if Ben Nelson, Mary Landau and a few others really belonged in the party if they couldn't support a public option.

As far as the GOP is concerned I am beginning to have some sympathy for Michael Steel. To his credit he defended Olympia Snow on TV a couple of weeks ago.

ktc
Posted By: bobkThe Dems are heading in the same direction. I caught part of Ed Schultz;s show on MSNBC and Ed and a couple of liberal guests were debating if Ben Nelson, Mary Landau and a few others really belonged in the party if they couldn't support a public option.


That's not a purity issue. That's a solidarity issue about an impending vote that could change the country, the balance of power and already has at least 56 other Democratic Senators support.

drummerboy
Posted By: Wootdrummerboy,

The Catholic Church has been pretty outspoken against Giuliani's pro choice stance as mayor. I think they denied him from accepting communion, though I am unsure if it was for his position on abortion or his divorce/infidelity.

Is everything a political conspiracy?


check your facts regarding Giuliani, and then get back to us on the political "conspiracy". (I'm not claiming a conspiracy - I'm claiming they have a pretty clear political agenda, an agenda which seems to lean very Republican/conservative, regardless of the beliefs of the laity)

GL2
I just want to say one thing before this thread goes any further: there will be no posting of pictures of the Prophet Reagan for fear of retaliation from jihadists.

GL2
Posted By: bobkAs far as the GOP is concerned I am beginning to have some sympathy for Michael Steel. To his credit he defended Olympia Snow on TV a couple of weeks ago.


Can you imagine being in his shoes? I'd be afraid to get up and read the paper each morning, what with all the "spirited" discussions and the ties, real or imagined, to conservative talk radio and TV personalities.

rastro
Posted By: ktcThat's not a purity issue.
Purity test, litmus test, call it what you will. As much as I disagree with them and think they should back the public option, if they don't agree with it and a majority of their constituents don't want it, how can they possibly vote for it? To say they shouldn't be considered Dems because of a single issue, no matter how significant that issue is, makes it a litmus/purity test.

ktc
Posted By: rastroif they don't agree with it and a majority of their constituents don't want it, how can they possibly vote for it?


Let's ask the thousands of Arkansans who lined up for the free health care clinic this past weekend in Little Rock how they want Blanche Lincoln to vote.

We know for sure that Lieberman isn't voting for the public option not because of his constituents, but because he's in bed (literally) with the insurance industry.

That leaves three Senators who aren't on board, perhaps for the same reasons as Lieberman.

The difference is that this is a specific piece of legislation that has 95 percent of Democrats prepared to vote yea any time now. The purity test the GOP put out is far broader. Being united to pass a bill isn't the same as what the GOP decreed. That would be like the Democrats declaring you're not a real Democrat if you're not for single-payer health reform. The public option is the compromise among the Democrats.

GL2
How Sweet It Is...

"Miss Mary, our children, and I will do a lot of praying and a lot of talking in the days ahead, as we determine the best course of action"

Want to help J.D. Hayworth? Here’s your chance
Fellow Citizen:

You have contacted me with words of encouragement following the release of a Rasmussen Reports Poll which finds me in a statistical dead heat with John McCain for the Republican nomination for the United States Senate in 2010.

Miss Mary, our children, and I will do a lot of praying and a lot of talking in the days ahead, as we determine the best course of action to take for our nation and for our family.

You have also asked what you can do in the days ahead.

There is something you can do right now…you will find attached an invitation to an event scheduled for Dec. 5, featuring Joe Arpaio, “America’s Toughest Sheriff.” “Sheriff Joe” has very graciously agreed to raise funds for the “Freedom In Truth Trust.” The FIT Trust is the fund that was established to help us satisfy legal debts incurred during the 2006 campaign. You can read more about it at http://www.jdhayworth.com/fit-trust.html

You may not live in Arizona…but no matter where you call home, would you respond to the attached invitation and please send a contribution to the FIT Trust?

That would certainly be a factor in the decision we will make at the “Hayworth Hacienda!”

Please feel free to share this e-mail and the attached invitation with others.

In closing, let me stress again that I have made no formal decision regarding a campaign for the U.S. Senate, but if your kind words are followed by tangible support of the upcoming event on Dec. 5, that would serve as another encouraging sign—even eclipsing the recent poll results!

Thank you for your support, and may God bless you and yours.

Sincerely,

J.D. Hayworth

Member of Congress, 1995-2007

GL2
As a followup to the Bishop Tobin v Pat Kennedy story, Tobin really stooped low yesterday when he decided Kennedy was "erratic and unpredictable," kicking Kennedy right square in the "mental health challenges" balls. Nice one, Bish. Really christian of you. Why waste the old sacrament on a nut job, eh?

jjd999
I love this! Please let them enforce this and drive out all moderates! And please, please God, let Sarah get the nomination. I can't wait for the next Tina Fey performance (in running shorts?).

In truth, thinking about this litmus test, even George W. Bush would fail on several counts:

Re (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill
-- GWB grew government enormously, ballooned the debt by cutting taxes just when Clinton finally had our largest structural fiscal problem solved, and in 2008, passed two stimulus bills that nearly equalled Obama's (and had he not, our friends would not have any money for tea parties).

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;
-- hmmn, which President signed into law the expansion of Medicare to prescription drugs? Which presidents (plural) have worked to prevent Medicare from negotiating the same drug discounts that the VA system gets, preventing it from using its market clout?

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
-- well, GWB definitely opposed cap and trade, but he proposed no "market based reforms" (and by the way, what the heck does that mean? If reform = regulation, then by def. it's not "market-based." And if it means just letting the market take its invisible-hand course, then how is that "reform"?).

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
-- GWB, to his credit, tried to pass historic immigration reform. He was defeated by filibuster (though I don't think he even had a simple majority in the Senate).

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
-- GWB surged in Iraq, finally getting it right after getting it wrong multiple times. But he didn't surge in Afghanistan.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
-- Not sure how to score GWB on this one, since I have no idea what would be "effective" (do they mean a green light to Israel to bomb? I might be for that, if I knew the radiation wouldn't travel through the air...). It does not seem that GWB did anything much to contain Iran (but what could he do, with Europe and Russia undermining us again and again...)?

By my count, that's a clear violation of the Purity Test on at least four if not five criteria. Of course this goes for Cheney too. So give them both the boot.

GL2
Yes, it's an amazing movement; very un-self-consciously demanding more, not less, rigid dogma.

I'm awaiting, as a sidebar to this joyous season, the return of the cr

rastro
Just because one group is planning to introduce this does not mean it will be accepted by a significant number of Republicans. This is just a proposal, right? Not a platform for the RNC.

GL2
Yes, that's the theme of this spanking-new thread: the struggle for the Party! The proposal will be made in BHO's paradise, Hawaii, in January!

I'm delighting in this as it unfolds because we watched mainstream Republicans and mainstream Christians whistle in the dark as these fundamentalist extremists grew in strength and number. Sarah, Dick Armey and other Taliban militants have nothing to lose because they're not in office. They can sit back and play a game of "Let's You and Them Fight" with Republicans who either join them (and lose elections) or address their extremism.

We're returning to the days of Pat Robertson when Republicans lamented: "The religious right: can't win with 'em; can't win without 'em."

GL2
This must be what it felt like when Afghanis welcomed the Taliban as a way to restore order to their country and then realized just how much "order" they'd be blessed with. A classic example of the GOP's problem:

"Does conservative Governor Bobby Jindal favor the $300 million in Federal money that could be heading his state's way, thanks to Senator Mary Landrieu's successful efforts to secure the cash in the health care bill? His office won't say.

To the best of our knowledge, Jindal has been publicly silent on whether he supports the money, ever since some on the right waged an aggressive attack on the funds, widely deriding the cash as the 'Louisiana Purchase.'"

HuffPost

GL2
Private (No Media) Tea Party Convention W/Sarah & Michelle: What's a GOP to Do?

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) will speak at the first-ever National Tea Party Convention this upcoming February.

The announcement of plans for the conservative lawmaker to attend the Tennessee event came from Tea Party organizer Sherry Phillips via Twitter Tuesday.

Bachmann, who has emerged as a champion of the Tea Party movement, will join ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin at the convention for the "purpose of networking and supporting the movements' multiple organizations principle goals." Palin will be the "special keynote speaker" at the event, which is taking place at the Opryland Hotel in Nashville, Tennessee.

"Press will be allowed in a designated section of the lobby of the convention only and will not be allowed inside the convention," reports the Nashville Post. "There will be no media allowed for the banquet with Sarah Palin."

Asked by Fox News if she would run in 2012 with Tea Party movement instigator Glenn Beck, Palin did not dismiss or endorse the idea.

rastro
Perhaps that will be the name of the political party they form - The Tea Party.


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