Deafening Silence: One and Done

Hmmmm, no comments from Yankees fans?

How many days till Pitchers & Catchers??

the season isn't over...I can still root for Yankee great Donnie Baseball.

hankzona said:
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I thought we were friends.

Try to be kind and understanding. Listen, all those years the Mets didn't make the postseason did you ever have a Yankee fan gloat or shove their number of championships in your face? Did you ever have to endure the taunts of your Yankee fan friends and relatives during September 2006 and 2007?

Haven't Yankee fans always been respectful of the travails of Mets fans?

Train_of_Thought said:

hankzona said:
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I thought we were friends.

I keep forgetting I really like some Mets fans especially after the "Screw the Yankees" crowd bombarded social media last night. I am sorry ToT.

Edited to say "I keep forgetting I really like a few Mets fans"

I really like a few Yankees fans. The fewer there are, the more I like it.

I liked the Phillies (which is more than a lot of Phillies fans can say) because in high school and college I used to be able to get games on my radio a lot of summer nights in Staten Island...and liked listening to Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts, Harry Kalas and Tim McCarver (before he became an exaggeration) call the games. But now, no longer.

mrincredible said:
Try to be kind and understanding. Listen, all those years the Mets didn't make the postseason did you ever have a Yankee fan gloat or shove their number of championships in your face? Did you ever have to endure the taunts of your Yankee fan friends and relatives during September 2006 and 2007?
Haven't Yankee fans always been respectful of the travails of Mets fans?

Uh, right. Not to mention Red Sox fans. And basically any other teams' fans.

hankzona said:
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No future converts in the family to replace you? Or is it as likely as a convert in mine?

hankzona said:
I liked the Phillies (which is more than a lot of Phillies fans can say) because in high school and college I used to be able to get games on my radio a lot of summer nights in Staten Island...and liked listening to Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts, Harry Kalas and Tim McCarver (before he became an exaggeration) call the games.

(A brief digression: All I can remember from McCarver's first forays into the booth is his wheezy laugh, a sound I'd gladly listen even to a Yankees fan instead of. Whatever exaggeration he ended up becoming, I give him credit for improving immensely from where he started.)

hankzona said:

Train_of_Thought said:

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I thought we were friends.

I keep forgetting I really like some Mets fans especially after the "Screw the Yankees" crowd bombarded social media last night. I am sorry ToT. ">
Edited to say "I keep forgetting I really like a few Mets fans"

Soul_29 said:

hankzona said:

Train_of_Thought said:

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Edited to say "I keep forgetting I really like a few Mets fans"

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I seem to remember you actually wrote something complimentary...I assumed your account got hacked.

hankzona said:
I liked the Phillies (which is more than a lot of Phillies fans can say) because in high school and college I used to be able to get games on my radio a lot of summer nights in Staten Island...and liked listening to Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts, Harry Kalas and Tim McCarver (before he became an exaggeration) call the games. But now, no longer. " src="//static.wwstf.com/common/plugins/redactor/emoticons/1.0/images/1.gif" unselectable="on">

Those were the days. In my mind, it was Harry Kalas, Rich Ashburn, Andy Musser and Tim McCarver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQwcNnjzOM

1964 Forgive the Phillies. But, first year of Mel Stottlemeier as a rookie. Also the year of the Phil Lenz harmonica incident with Yogi.

mrincredible said:
Try to be kind and understanding. Listen, all those years the Mets didn't make the postseason did you ever have a Yankee fan gloat or shove their number of championships in your face? Did you ever have to endure the taunts of your Yankee fan friends and relatives during September 2006 and 2007?

YES

Haven't Yankee fans always been respectful of the travails of Mets fans?

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Donnie Baseball? Never had the stuff to lead his team to the Big Dance. Don't see it happening with the Dodgers either.

As a transplant from somewhere else, I am still amazed at how spoiled sports fans are around here. There is a plethora of local teams in every sport, but somehow you have to be either a Yankees or Mets fan, but not both (and similar for other major sports.) And so entitled about making the playoffs every year!

I guess that's why I still am rooting for MY home team (the Houston Astros) even after all these (mostly lean) years

You think Mets fans are entitled? Wow.

FilmCarp said:
You think Mets fans are entitled? Wow.

Not so much re post-season, obviously, but I still don't understand why New Yorkers don't root for both teams. And my comments were about all major sports, not just baseball.

sac, that in itself would be a long thread

sac said:

FilmCarp said:
You think Mets fans are entitled? Wow.

Not so much re post-season, obviously, but I still don't understand why New Yorkers don't root for both teams. And my comments were about all major sports, not just baseball.

Thumbnail summary, from just my personal POV on why Mets fans can't and won't root for the Yankees:

• George Steinbrenner. Yes, he's dead now, but he was alive for a very long time, and his kids still run the team.
• Billy Martin. A mean, pugnacious drunk who would fight anyone at any time. Even his own players.
• Their terrible (and I mean TERRIBLE) radio broadcast team.
• Their insufferable pretentiousness. Example: Other teams have a hall of fame. The Yankees have a "monument park" that looks like a cemetery.
• They have retired half the uniform numbers between 0 and 100. Even good, but not great ballplayers like Andy Petitte get their numbers retired.
• But the #1 reason not to root for the Yankees. Any baseball argument with a Yankee fan, about virtually any topic, will result in the Yankee fan reminding you that his/her team has won 27 championships. Even if it's not relevant to the topic at hand.

A couple of handy reference guides:

The fun starts at the 5:30 mark:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vrpe9_cheers-the-torelli-tort_fun

And:

And from the Yankee fan perspective, they think the Mets are silly. Which they are, and which is why we root for them. The Yankees would never have this for a fight song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTLmDuhV3AQ

or this for a mascot:

sac said:

FilmCarp said:
You think Mets fans are entitled? Wow.

Not so much re post-season, obviously, but I still don't understand why New Yorkers don't root for both teams. And my comments were about all major sports, not just baseball.

Is it different in Chicago with the Cubs and White Sox? Are Angels fans rooting for the Dodgers? Raiders and Niners? I don't know the answer, but I also don't know that it's a New York thing, per se.

It's been a long time since the Yankees have been serious post-season contenders. When was the last season that you looked at their team and saw destiny? Five years? Four years if I am being generous.

On Gawker yesterday, they mocked the Flushing cousin to loud Yankee fan arrogance, loud Met fan martyrdom.

http://gawker.com/wow-you-like-the-mets-wow-1736021251

Whoa—you’ve liked the Mets? Since you were a kid? And not the Yankees?
Even though the Yankees are objectively more popular? You still liked
the Mets? And wore a Mets hat everywhere? And talked about the Mets?
Since you were a kid? Wow. If I found the mythical “magic lamp” I would
inform the genie that all three of my magic wishes were to meet your
mother and father and sit them down and look deep into their eyes and
sincerely congratulate them on raising a child with the principled
bravery that you possess. I know that you personally are too humble to
ask to be nominated for sainthood, but I would beg you to consider
accepting the honor, if only to see the light in your mother’s eyes when
you finally receive the recognition you are due.

Train_of_Thought said:

sac said:

FilmCarp said:
You think Mets fans are entitled? Wow.

Not so much re post-season, obviously, but I still don't understand why New Yorkers don't root for both teams. And my comments were about all major sports, not just baseball.

Is it different in Chicago with the Cubs and White Sox? Are Angels fans rooting for the Dodgers? Raiders and Niners? I don't know the answer, but I also don't know that it's a New York thing, per se.

I don't know. I came from a city that had one team for each major sport and I thought that it was such a great thing to have so many more teams and so many more chances to be rooting for a winner at any given time. And then it didn't work that way and I didn't (still don't) get it. (Of course I came from a city where the winning seasons were also few and far between.)

If anything, in baseball, I tend to root for the Mets, partly because they are underdogs most of the time and partly because they were formed at the same time as the Astros and were in their league, until the Astros switched to the AL a couple of years ago, so more familiar to me. But I would root for the Yankees in the World Series against most other teams. Maybe not against the Rangers although something similar goes on in Texas ... where pretty much everyone roots for the Rangers and Cowboys and only the Houston folks root for the Astros and Texans (or Oilers back in the day.)

On the Texas topic then, I'm an Aggies guy. Therefore, I root for whoever is playing against UT. If the Longhorns are playing, oh, Washington in a bowl game, Aggie fan Texans likely root for Washington, no? And I assume UT fans would similarly root for any opponent of A&M. I don't expect there would be many who would nicely "root for the team from Texas," as you sound like you might. I could be wrong.

It would be a tough sell for me to root for the Aggies as I'm a pretty big UT fan and almost always root for the Longhorns except when they are playing my alma mater (Rice) which doesn't happen very often these days. (And Rice fans are generally no fans of the Aggies anyway.) But I guess I just wouldn't be watching in the first place unless it was the final college championship game of the year (BCS? NCAA? I can't keep up anymore.) In that case, I might root for them if I didn't have any ties to whoever they were playing.

Some of my best friends (and family members) are A&M alums or current students, so I don't reject them out of hand.